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For music [ 376 ] ** [41,59%]
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I will install it later [ 94 ] ** [10,40%]
I stay with OS 9 [ 177 ] ** [19,58%]
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Francois Déchery
posté dim. 6 oct. 2002, 12:59
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With the new Jaguar (OS 10.2) , and the coming major music apps, how do you feel about it?


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Levon River
posté dim. 6 oct. 2002, 14:50
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QUOTE (webmaster @ Oct 6 2002, 11:59)
With the new Jaguar (OS 10.2) , and the coming major music apps, how do you feel about it?

I feel just like I did when the major music apps were still coming under OS 10.1.x. They are still coming.

Until somebody shows me something Logic can do that DP can't do as well (and nobody has yet), I will not pay the premium for Logic. Beyond that, Logic under OS X still has a whole list of important things "coming," so it's not even a fully working package yet as far as I'm concerned. (I also vowed back in the '80s that I would never, ever, under any circumstances support any software that required a hardware dongle--which are like cabinet locks in a daycare--and I have no plans for ever breaking that vow, but that's a separate issue.) So I certainly am not moving full music production over to X in Logic at this point

Until there is a fully functioning DAW+MIDI package for OS X, I'll be in the using OS X "for everything else" category. Serious music production just is not an option for me without a complete, intact work flow that doesn't require bouncing in and out of operating systems. It's too schizophrenic. blink.gif

It's always been bad enough having to bounce in and out of various programs, or going through what it's always been necessary to go through to get several disparate proprietary packages to work in sync, since we are this many decades into the use of computers, and *nobody* has ever actually produced a complete solution. That's exactly why we have to have "fixes" like OMS, FreeMIDI, ASIO, VST wrappers, ReWire--the host of "cures" that are sometimes almost as bad as the disease. We have the promise that Core Audio and Core MIDI and Audio Units are supposed to make life oh-so-much easier, but apparently even those are going to be no panacea, and so ASIO and ReWire are both still going to be required, both depending utterly on the whimsical cooperation of independent developers to implement them at all, and, if so, to implement them correctly and effectively. To the degree they don't, we'll continue to shell out money for needed apps that won't talk to each other, or, when they try, stutter. unsure.gif

I do believe (hope springs eternal) that somewhere not too far up the road there will be a choice of working, effective DAW+MIDI programs in OS X, and that things actually will be better than they were in OS 9. But right now it ain't. So I'm in the "for everything else" category.

P.S. I inadvertently hit the wrong button on the poll, and got myself a nice, shiny, useless "null vote" entered, apparently, that I cannot shed, change, orphan, abandon, or disclaim. If anybody knows how I can change it, please let me know. Otherwise, please mentally tote up one more "for everything else" vote. huh.gif smile.gif
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- Soif   Do you use MacOS X?   dim. 6 oct. 2002, 12:59
- - Doug Miner   I have been using Jaguar with Deck and Intuem for ...   dim. 6 oct. 2002, 15:10
- - hughster   Right now, Jaguar with the TASCAM US-428 is unusab...   lun. 7 oct. 2002, 03:36
- - filarion   I'm using Ableton Live and Spark XL (still mis...   lun. 7 oct. 2002, 13:11
- - metachor   I just purchased one of those 1.25 gHz dual/proc g...   lun. 7 oct. 2002, 19:14
- - HauiB   [FONT=Impact][SIZE=7][COLOR=blue]I have 10.2, A M-...   mer. 9 oct. 2002, 02:34
- - ruxx   The sad fact of the matter for anyone using MOTU a...   jeu. 10 oct. 2002, 11:06
- - PlasTree   The biggest issue for me concerning the transition...   jeu. 10 oct. 2002, 23:51
- - kaboombahchuck   I's sticking with 9 untill hell freezes over, ...   ven. 11 oct. 2002, 00:24
- - Fungus   I love the stability of X. I can easily go a month...   ven. 11 oct. 2002, 08:04
- - gayajay   I'm a newbie to this mb. I just had to jump i...   dim. 13 oct. 2002, 06:06
- - III777III   If you like OSX then get Jaguar, i chave 2 cinema...   dim. 13 oct. 2002, 10:21
- - Teiwaz   For music, it's OS9 for the foreseeable future...   dim. 17 nov. 2002, 01:50
- - Organism   I've been using Logic 5 under OS X for several...   dim. 17 nov. 2002, 04:23
- - powermacg4_450   OS X rules! Anyone NOT using it is missing out...   mar. 19 nov. 2002, 01:23
- - macmad   QUOTE (webmaster @ Oct 6 2002, 11:59)With the...   ven. 17 janv. 2003, 00:42
- - beefpile   Since I have now my update to Logic 5 and Audiower...   lun. 20 janv. 2003, 13:15
- - Doug Miner   The stability of OSX makes it my choice. It is roc...   lun. 20 janv. 2003, 17:27
- - ryosode   My OS 9 has gone R.I.P. for months. I am making mu...   mar. 21 janv. 2003, 08:30
- - Joeflyer59   I'm a little frustrated, because I LOVE OS 10....   mer. 22 janv. 2003, 01:38
- - rickenbacker   Joey b - Edirol have some nice OS X-ready audio in...   mer. 22 janv. 2003, 11:20
- - 3phase   I am a bit trapped with my new powerbook gigaherz,...   mar. 4 févr. 2003, 14:05
- - Metatron   I just bought an new 867 DP for e1479 and am amaze...   dim. 9 févr. 2003, 11:50
- - nero   I'm running OS X on a 1gHz tiBook using Cubase...   lun. 10 févr. 2003, 09:18
- - sazerac   I have had warm and fuzzy feelings for Logic 5.5 c...   jeu. 20 févr. 2003, 02:37
- - pjsaccone   I can't even THINK of using OSX! The OSX d...   sam. 22 févr. 2003, 11:43
- - baronemc   QUOTE (webmaster @ Oct 6 2002, 11:59)With the...   ven. 28 févr. 2003, 20:29
- - FrankBlack   I use a yamaha keyboard, a delta 44 card & box...   dim. 9 mars 2003, 08:01
- - snoozebutton   Wow, I had no idea this site was so 9-biased(haha ...   dim. 16 mars 2003, 05:01
- - tacoboy   Im an OS9 Logic user. Why? Cos for some whacky rea...   dim. 6 avril 2003, 16:17
- - dixiechicken   Part of the problem with the appearent lack of sea...   jeu. 10 avril 2003, 19:59
- - tobor   well... I'm into "I use it for everything...   mar. 15 avril 2003, 11:24
- - dixiechicken   Logic 6, Pro Tools 6 and Digital Performer4. DP4/M...   mar. 15 avril 2003, 12:14
- - dixiechicken   First sentence of last post - should end: "is...   mar. 15 avril 2003, 12:16
- - Doxxic   QUOTE (hughster @ Oct 7 2002, 02:36)Right now...   lun. 21 avril 2003, 10:53
- - xingu   Doxxic, that's a very old post you're refe...   lun. 21 avril 2003, 16:44
- - PowerMacG5   OSX rules. for music or anything. I could never us...   lun. 8 sept. 2003, 20:35
- - Synthetic   QUOTE (PowerMacG5 @ Sep 8 2003, 13:35)OSX rul...   lun. 8 sept. 2003, 22:13
- - PlasTree   Ditto. I'd love to run exclusively on osX with...   lun. 8 sept. 2003, 22:43
- - fingers   The only thing i miss about os9 is the nostalgia i...   ven. 30 avril 2004, 10:53
- - dolawren   I use Panther OSX 10.3.4 mostly for composing musi...   sam. 24 juil. 2004, 23:28
- - gkdoty   I use OS X 10.3.4 for everything and I use OS 9 Cl...   dim. 25 juil. 2004, 00:36
- - divan   PB G3 333 - with OS 9.2 - sometimes angry, sometim...   dim. 25 juil. 2004, 10:01
- - Essentia   Im using 10.3 Panther which owns   mer. 5 janv. 2005, 22:31
- - jimmy2can   Im using OS 10.4 with Reason and Garage Band. I al...   lun. 6 juin 2005, 05:45
- - Schmange   I've been wanting to upgrade from OS9 and SCSI...   sam. 11 juin 2005, 23:49


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