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ven. 31 mars 2006, 22:28
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Hi guys. Wasn't sure if this was the best forum for this, but here goes.
As a hobby, a friend and I record vocals on random instrumentals of recordings that we usually find on CD singles at the record store or on the net.
They are pretty humorous and have little or nothing to do with the artist who created the instrumental. We want to create site where we can share our renditions with the public for free. We both have full time careers and have absolutely no interest in selling these songs, not that anyone would buy them, or making profit off the site. It would be fully funded by out of our own pocket and we wouldn't have any advertisers. Just a personal site.
Does anyone know if we'd run into any legal problems by doing this? Like I said, it's just a hobby. Basically, we're just two old friends from high school that get together maybe 3 times a year, drink and have some fun jamming on these recordings. They are by far from "great" quality, but they're actually not so bad, for what it's worth.
Anyway, any input or advice would be great. I just fear having some big-wig artist or label sue us for something so trivial.
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mar. 4 avril 2006, 16:02
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Oh, i was wrong about PE not having the samples cleared, sorry, my bad, was a long time since I read the interview myself. They did it afterwards, so I was half right ... they couldn't have afforded making those records if they knew the price. But anyway they had to change their music, because of legal stuff. The funny thing is that sampling was ok for a while, but then someone made a heap of money from sueing sampling artists, and everyone wanted in. Who was it? De La Soul sampling som Turtles track no one ever heard? Well anyway, you're not stealing when you are sampling, just as you, coldharbour, were not stealing when you quoted my text. Music, as all other culture, is part of the dialogue in our society and we have the moral right to play around with it and use it. Stealing is taking something away from another, sampling is playing around with something, while not in any way hampering the original, its creator or its use. You can't do that with a car. Apples and oranges here. I'm not talking about rip-offs, since that is independent of sampling. I mean you can rip-off entire compositions without touching a sampler. Do the chord progress exactly like the original, do another arrangement, add some new lyrics, et voila! It happens time after time, and it is not funny. Who has copyrighted the progression G-C-D? The wrong thing with the wild west of sample clearences, is that we can't afford to make the music we like. Even PE couldn't afford it. But you have a point with rip-offs. Still people are having rip-off court battles all the time, so there would probably be rules and precedents that prevent full scale rip-off. I bet there already is. Coldharbour, hahaworld and others: What do you think of the situation? Have you got any ideas on solving copyright issues, both with respect to sampling and file-sharing? Or is everything ok as it is? Not trying to beef, i'm just curious
Ce message a été modifié par abcdaniel - mar. 4 avril 2006, 16:04.
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JusClownin Legal Or Not? ven. 31 mars 2006, 22:28 kaboombahchuck Sound to me like you would run into copyright infr... sam. 1 avril 2006, 01:48 JusClownin Yeah, maybe it's pointless. I'm just wond... sam. 1 avril 2006, 02:56 lepetitmartien The question is "does it goes under the ... sam. 1 avril 2006, 03:53 zooot QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ Sat 1 Apr 2006, 02... jeu. 12 oct. 2006, 18:31 zooot QUOTE (zooot @ Thu 12 Oct 2006, 17:31) QU... mar. 17 oct. 2006, 13:04 straydog Well I was in a cover band playing in a local bar ... sam. 1 avril 2006, 11:09 Mac Daddy You can't just take peoples music! Stupid... sam. 1 avril 2006, 16:41 prrcomm Doesn't matter money or no. I own 30 copyright... sam. 1 avril 2006, 16:48 lepetitmartien This kind of problems are ALWAYS better solved bef... sam. 1 avril 2006, 18:53 abcdaniel Uh, hmm, wtf? Music is about expression, wether it... dim. 2 avril 2006, 03:33 JusClownin Mac Daddy, whoa, sounds like the anti-depressants ... dim. 2 avril 2006, 06:22 hahaworld 3 things (briefly):
1. Copying music is illegal w... dim. 2 avril 2006, 06:25 abcdaniel Yeah, well, I was a bit drunk when I wrote that la... dim. 2 avril 2006, 10:12 Mac Daddy Like I said: This is plain dumb. Stupid. You are... dim. 2 avril 2006, 10:27 straydog Thou shall not possess what is, by its own nature,... dim. 2 avril 2006, 11:14 JusClownin It's good to know there are actual people who ... dim. 2 avril 2006, 13:21 prrcomm Let's extend this f**k the law concept.
Given... dim. 2 avril 2006, 17:49 JaMen "Oh, and Mac Daddy, for someone harping on or... dim. 2 avril 2006, 19:04 abcdaniel The law prohibits us from making certain music. Th... dim. 2 avril 2006, 21:53 banevt copyright laws? When an object of art is exposed ... dim. 2 avril 2006, 22:02 JusClownin I'm sorry to have started such a dialogue here... dim. 2 avril 2006, 22:12 lepetitmartien To get back on the problem sui generis, as long it... lun. 3 avril 2006, 02:06 coldharbour QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Apr 2 2006, 02:33)On a sid... lun. 3 avril 2006, 09:25 straydog Things would be simpler if artists could just solv... lun. 3 avril 2006, 11:24 abcdaniel No, PE didn't get their samples cleared and pa... lun. 3 avril 2006, 11:25 Mac Daddy You have got to be the most dumb person on Earth. ... lun. 3 avril 2006, 11:56 straydog QUOTE (Mac Daddy @ Apr 3 2006, 10:56)"No... lun. 3 avril 2006, 12:09 Mac Daddy I'm old enough to be Diddys daddy and your dad... lun. 3 avril 2006, 12:45 straydog Now I understand... it has been your huge egoism t... lun. 3 avril 2006, 13:49 lepetitmartien QUOTE (straydog @ Apr 3 2006, 12:24)LepetitMa... lun. 3 avril 2006, 19:17 straydog So, France is under copyrights confusion too... In... lun. 3 avril 2006, 20:53 abcdaniel Maybe we as musicians, composers and producers, sh... lun. 3 avril 2006, 22:09 straydog Check out this interesting link:
Pirate party
Ha... lun. 3 avril 2006, 22:37 abcdaniel Being Swedish and all... yeah, the Pirate Party is... mar. 4 avril 2006, 00:16 lepetitmartien I won't comment on the social issues in France... mar. 4 avril 2006, 03:03 abcdaniel In Sweden we have a new law since july 2005, that ... mar. 4 avril 2006, 10:01 coldharbour QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Apr 3 2006, 10:25)No, PE d... mar. 4 avril 2006, 11:22 straydog "When you make a recording deal or a publishi... mar. 4 avril 2006, 12:53 kaboombahchuck Just a bit of info for those that don't want t... mar. 4 avril 2006, 14:22 JusClownin Just another question to toss into this bucket:
D... mar. 4 avril 2006, 21:14 kaboombahchuck Most clubs where DJs and cover bands play pay fees... mer. 5 avril 2006, 00:25 prrcomm I've found this conversation stimulating, to s... mer. 5 avril 2006, 01:22 coldharbour QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Apr 4 2006, 15:02)But anyw... mer. 5 avril 2006, 11:53 straydog A few remarks:
There are decent people everywhere... mer. 5 avril 2006, 13:12 abcdaniel coldharbour, I think we could go on forever...
... mer. 5 avril 2006, 16:14 JusClownin To me, money corrupts culture. Yeah, yeah, I know... mer. 5 avril 2006, 19:05 zooot when the clever part of your work was the clever p... jeu. 6 avril 2006, 12:36 uvbnskoold Ummm... yeah. You don't wanna know what I thi... mer. 31 mai 2006, 01:53 Mac Daddy QUOTE (zooot @ Thu 6 Apr 2006, 11:36) whe... jeu. 12 oct. 2006, 18:50
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