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ven. 31 mars 2006, 22:28
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Hi guys. Wasn't sure if this was the best forum for this, but here goes.
As a hobby, a friend and I record vocals on random instrumentals of recordings that we usually find on CD singles at the record store or on the net.
They are pretty humorous and have little or nothing to do with the artist who created the instrumental. We want to create site where we can share our renditions with the public for free. We both have full time careers and have absolutely no interest in selling these songs, not that anyone would buy them, or making profit off the site. It would be fully funded by out of our own pocket and we wouldn't have any advertisers. Just a personal site.
Does anyone know if we'd run into any legal problems by doing this? Like I said, it's just a hobby. Basically, we're just two old friends from high school that get together maybe 3 times a year, drink and have some fun jamming on these recordings. They are by far from "great" quality, but they're actually not so bad, for what it's worth.
Anyway, any input or advice would be great. I just fear having some big-wig artist or label sue us for something so trivial.
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lun. 3 avril 2006, 11:24
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Things would be simpler if artists could just solve these matters between themselves, it's just a matter of respect for one's wishes, as prrcom said, yet there are always individuals willing to abuse this understanding, and then the law and the lawyers and the record companies come in, making things even more complicated... law is always a cold, dumb thing, unable to understand the difference between use and abuse or between intention and result, yet more and more each day the record companies are taking away artistic freedom and the goverments are voting new laws to support them earning on the backs of musicians. Where are the laws that would protect myself concerning the terms of my contract, where are the laws that would prevent them from marketing in anyway they think, even if I find it degrading for my product, where are the laws that would give me full copyright on what I want or not want to be done to my music, where are the laws that would keep them from making a fortune on my creations and myself getting a few pennies? I remember a case where a local band had recorded a draft demo and had been -naturally- giving it around to gather opinions and fans. Somehow it got to the hands of a greedy record company, which published it as part of a collection, after of course getting the copyright for it, which the band thought was too early to worry about... the band saw it when it actually hit the record stores and, of course, they couldn't believe their own eyes. But the law could not protect them. Shouldn't it be obvious that you have the full copyright for something you have played, recorded and produced on your own? It should be, but laws are there to protect the interests of bussinessmen and their pockets, not artists and their creativity, I think this was the whole "fuck the law" concept from the begginning...because if artists could get a decent portion of what the companies are making, nobody would actually have to worry about a small site using their music or a DJ using an 8 second sample... unless there was something ethical in the way, of course. LepetitMartien, what is DADVSI law? By the way, I always find such conversations thrilling... it's very interesting and helpful exchanging opinions on these matters that concern us all (though I would still prefer being able to play music without having to think about them at all)
Ce message a été modifié par straydog - lun. 3 avril 2006, 11:28.
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JusClownin Legal Or Not? ven. 31 mars 2006, 22:28 kaboombahchuck Sound to me like you would run into copyright infr... sam. 1 avril 2006, 01:48 JusClownin Yeah, maybe it's pointless. I'm just wond... sam. 1 avril 2006, 02:56 lepetitmartien The question is "does it goes under the ... sam. 1 avril 2006, 03:53 zooot QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ Sat 1 Apr 2006, 02... jeu. 12 oct. 2006, 18:31 zooot QUOTE (zooot @ Thu 12 Oct 2006, 17:31) QU... mar. 17 oct. 2006, 13:04 straydog Well I was in a cover band playing in a local bar ... sam. 1 avril 2006, 11:09 Mac Daddy You can't just take peoples music! Stupid... sam. 1 avril 2006, 16:41 prrcomm Doesn't matter money or no. I own 30 copyright... sam. 1 avril 2006, 16:48 lepetitmartien This kind of problems are ALWAYS better solved bef... sam. 1 avril 2006, 18:53 abcdaniel Uh, hmm, wtf? Music is about expression, wether it... dim. 2 avril 2006, 03:33 JusClownin Mac Daddy, whoa, sounds like the anti-depressants ... dim. 2 avril 2006, 06:22 hahaworld 3 things (briefly):
1. Copying music is illegal w... dim. 2 avril 2006, 06:25 abcdaniel Yeah, well, I was a bit drunk when I wrote that la... dim. 2 avril 2006, 10:12 Mac Daddy Like I said: This is plain dumb. Stupid. You are... dim. 2 avril 2006, 10:27 straydog Thou shall not possess what is, by its own nature,... dim. 2 avril 2006, 11:14 JusClownin It's good to know there are actual people who ... dim. 2 avril 2006, 13:21 prrcomm Let's extend this f**k the law concept.
Given... dim. 2 avril 2006, 17:49 JaMen "Oh, and Mac Daddy, for someone harping on or... dim. 2 avril 2006, 19:04 abcdaniel The law prohibits us from making certain music. Th... dim. 2 avril 2006, 21:53 banevt copyright laws? When an object of art is exposed ... dim. 2 avril 2006, 22:02 JusClownin I'm sorry to have started such a dialogue here... dim. 2 avril 2006, 22:12 lepetitmartien To get back on the problem sui generis, as long it... lun. 3 avril 2006, 02:06 coldharbour QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Apr 2 2006, 02:33)On a sid... lun. 3 avril 2006, 09:25 abcdaniel No, PE didn't get their samples cleared and pa... lun. 3 avril 2006, 11:25 Mac Daddy You have got to be the most dumb person on Earth. ... lun. 3 avril 2006, 11:56 straydog QUOTE (Mac Daddy @ Apr 3 2006, 10:56)"No... lun. 3 avril 2006, 12:09 Mac Daddy I'm old enough to be Diddys daddy and your dad... lun. 3 avril 2006, 12:45 straydog Now I understand... it has been your huge egoism t... lun. 3 avril 2006, 13:49 lepetitmartien QUOTE (straydog @ Apr 3 2006, 12:24)LepetitMa... lun. 3 avril 2006, 19:17 straydog So, France is under copyrights confusion too... In... lun. 3 avril 2006, 20:53 abcdaniel Maybe we as musicians, composers and producers, sh... lun. 3 avril 2006, 22:09 straydog Check out this interesting link:
Pirate party
Ha... lun. 3 avril 2006, 22:37 abcdaniel Being Swedish and all... yeah, the Pirate Party is... mar. 4 avril 2006, 00:16 lepetitmartien I won't comment on the social issues in France... mar. 4 avril 2006, 03:03 abcdaniel In Sweden we have a new law since july 2005, that ... mar. 4 avril 2006, 10:01 coldharbour QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Apr 3 2006, 10:25)No, PE d... mar. 4 avril 2006, 11:22 straydog "When you make a recording deal or a publishi... mar. 4 avril 2006, 12:53 kaboombahchuck Just a bit of info for those that don't want t... mar. 4 avril 2006, 14:22 abcdaniel Oh, i was wrong about PE not having the samples cl... mar. 4 avril 2006, 16:02 JusClownin Just another question to toss into this bucket:
D... mar. 4 avril 2006, 21:14 kaboombahchuck Most clubs where DJs and cover bands play pay fees... mer. 5 avril 2006, 00:25 prrcomm I've found this conversation stimulating, to s... mer. 5 avril 2006, 01:22 coldharbour QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Apr 4 2006, 15:02)But anyw... mer. 5 avril 2006, 11:53 straydog A few remarks:
There are decent people everywhere... mer. 5 avril 2006, 13:12 abcdaniel coldharbour, I think we could go on forever...
... mer. 5 avril 2006, 16:14 JusClownin To me, money corrupts culture. Yeah, yeah, I know... mer. 5 avril 2006, 19:05 zooot when the clever part of your work was the clever p... jeu. 6 avril 2006, 12:36 uvbnskoold Ummm... yeah. You don't wanna know what I thi... mer. 31 mai 2006, 01:53 Mac Daddy QUOTE (zooot @ Thu 6 Apr 2006, 11:36) whe... jeu. 12 oct. 2006, 18:50
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