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> Genesis, Riding The Scree
rdevay
posté mar. 22 mai 2007, 00:31
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Meri à toutes et tous de remplir ces colonnes. Vous êtes une véritable aide !

ma petite question :
Dans l'album de Genesis 'Lamb lies down on brodway", Tony Banks utilise un synthé (llequel ?) qui semble être "doublé" dans le morceau : " Riding The Scree". à partit de 2.07 mn. Un solina ?

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posté mar. 22 mai 2007, 03:42
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Bonsoir, et bienvenue!
Je ne suis pas du tout spécialiste, mais ta question m'a intéressé...
Je me suis un peu baladé, j'ai trouvé ça, ici

"The music itself is proportionally intense and features classic Genesis workouts with pieces like In the Cage; The Colony of Slippermen; and the mind-numbing complexity of Riding the Scree. In addition, Genesis wrote very experimental tracks such as the Waiting Room (which was alternately titled "Evil-jam"). Although there are some tracks that may seem like filler, I feel that every single note on this album is absolutely essential. In general, the performances by Steve Hackett (guitar); Tony Banks (Hammond Organ, piano, mellotron, ARP Pro-soloist and 2600); Mike Rutherford (bass, 12 string acoustic); and Phil Collins (drums, backing vocals) are simply breathtaking."

C'est un début! tongue.gif

Et ça,
"Because a keyboardist named Brian ENO f**ked up all the things for maybe one of the best GENESIS albums!! On this album, almost everything sounds easy prog pop or randomly experimental. We are very far from "Foxtrot" or "Selling England...". Sometimes I find some bits BEATLE-esque! There was an important loss of essence here, some kind of prog dilution. BANKS is not in his element. We notice he is not familiar with those experimental keyboard sounds. I dont know... it sounds a bit amateur! The moog is played with a slight randomness, abandonning a bit all the structure that was the strength of the group in the past. On "The Battle Of Epping Forest", the moog was well supported by the bass, the drums and guitars, but here, it seems all alone. We can see it in waiting room (what a bad song!!), "The Colony Of Slipper Man", "The Light Lies Down On Broadway". Fortunately, the moog is well accompanied on "In The Cage"."

Bon, ailleurs, on explique qu'en fait Eno n'a fait "que" des bidouilles sur la voix de PGab... blink.gif


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posté mar. 22 mai 2007, 05:03
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Allez, un petit dernier avant d'aller dodo: celui-ci...
"Equipment used by Tony Banks over the years:
The equipment lists in this section are derived from The Genesis Discography [4] up until the 1991-era keyboard rig. This list was compiled in the early 1990s from various sources, including album liner notes, lists of tour gear for the band, etc. (The origin of the rest of the equipment lists is unknown.) Banks would not take his entire rig with him on tour, but did take most of it. Taking a grand piano on tour was not practical, so those parts on the albums were played on the electric piano. (Before it was dropped, for example, the "Firth of Fifth" intro was played on the electric piano.) He did take the Synclavier on the road with him, and it is visible in many of the performance videos from the 1983-1987 era. Changes to the keyboard rig were incremental over the years. Probably the two most drastic changes were the removal of the acoustic sampling Mellotron around 1980, when the then-new polyphonic synthesizers made it possible to play string sounds; and the dramatic overhaul of the rig for the We Can't Dance tour where Banks had only four slim keyboards onstage. (This latter shakeout involved the jettisoning of the Synclavier, and made songs like "Home by the Sea" sound quite different.)
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The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (1974)

* Piano [used on album only] - Steinway - used on intro to The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway and elsewhere
* Hammond T-102 tonewheel organ
* Electra 368 Electric piano
* Mellotron M400 - with the 3 violins, 8 voice choir and Brass tape sets
* ARP Pro-Soloist analogue synthesiszer
* Elka Rhapsody analogue synthesizer"


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posté mar. 22 mai 2007, 08:14
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The battle of Epping forest,
Yes its the battle of epping forest,
Right outside your door.
You aint seen nothing like it.
No, you aint seen nothing like it,
Not since the civil war.


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posté mar. 22 mai 2007, 20:10
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Merci encore je pense en effet qu'il s'agit du ARP Pro Soloist. Je sais qu'il existe avec le synthé virtuel Zero-G Nostalgia. Mais celui çi est-il UB (compatible mac-Intel) ? et le fameux son de "The lambs lies down... - riding the scree" y est-il ?

Mystère et boules de gommes....

Si certains d'entres vous ont l'âme des détectives ou ont achetés ce synthe...

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