Slow drive, Logic on Quad 5, even with 2 tracks! Options

[hahaworld]

Dear Friend,

I am also using a Quad G5, and I have had Slow Disk errors while using Logic Pro since I bought it in July. Have you had this problem with your G5? I've been to the Genius Bar about 4 times, and no one seems to be able to pinpoint the problem. The Slow Disk errors happen whenever I'm using a third-party plug-in like EastWest Symphonic Orchestra or Synthogy Ivory. It also happens when I'm working with audio. The other day, I only had two audio tracks running, and the Slow Disk error kept popping up. I still use Logic on my PowerBook G4, and it screams along just fine. It's sad to have a G5 Quad that runs slower than a laptop I've had since 2003. Any ideas you might have would be greatly appreciated!

Sincerely,
HaHaWorld

Interesting, I answered this question for myself several months ago.

I had problems (pops, hangs, no SPDIF I/O) with the Firebox on my Powerbook 667 so I returned the Firebox and bought the Traveler. The Traveler worked much better, but now on my current system (I haven't tried SPDIF I/O yet) I have to toggle the optical input settings after booting to "wake up" audio output. Still no definitive word from MOTU (they suggested the output toggle exercise) on a real fix, but at least now once it's "awake" it works until the computer is power-cycled again.

As you can see from my sig I moved up to a Quad G5 from the Powerbook. I'm in this seriously, so I seriously abused my retirement savings. So far I haven't regretted it. Logic 7.1 is actually easy to use on this system, and Reaktor 5 may occaisionally make some (unintended) strange digital-lockup noises, but the CPU is still less than 35%. The funny part was I thought the lock-up was part of the Reaktor patch I was using so I recorded it. I didn't know it until I looked at the waveform in Logic. So much for my 30 years of synthesis experience...

I don't currently daisy-chain a FW drive from the Traveler, but I did on the Powerbook and it worked as a recording target drive. I do use FW400 drives on the Quad G5, but I intend to get a FW800 drive for recorded sound files. I've been told that the FW800 bus is independent of the FW400 bus (which is used by the Traveler) so I'm expecting pretty good performance.

Stay tuned...

[hahaworld]

Incidentally, it hasn't stopped me from making music!

http://www.johnthomasoaks.com

HaHaWorld

[Mac Daddy]

hahaworld... You've got skills. Enjoyed your music.

[hahaworld]

Thanks for listening, MacDaddy!

Girls only want guys who have great skills.

HaHaWorld

[Mac Daddy]

hahaworld don't even go there... I was being supportive. Perhaps you don't know what the word "Skills" mean in the "Hood". It means: Abilities. Actually, I thought you looked a bit Elton John and sounded Average Joe. This can stop here or get ugly. You got the SKILLS to get in the ring? Bring it.

Some deserve what they get...

[hahaworld]

Um. . .

Really confused by the "Skills" post, MacDaddy. I'm trying to figure out what incurred your wrath. I was just quoting the Napoleon Dynamite movie with the "Girls only want guys with great skills" line. I wasn't really referring to anything else. Please explain to me how I've offended you. I truly thought you were being supportive, but I am, as you have stated, just an Average Joe who is trying to use this forum to make friends. What do you mean by "some deserve what they get?"

I'm really missing a lot here, so please explain. I really don't understand what made you so mad.

Sincerely Confused,
John thomas Oaks (HaHaWorld)

[lepetitmartien]

To avoid ambiguities, misunderstood sarcasms and more, use smileys, "…"… People come from everywhere, from very different backgrounds and may not "get it" as you intend. (this is a general announcement, I am misunderstood too sometimes…)

[Mac Daddy]

hahaworld, yes there was a misunderstanding... I felt a bit stupid after expressing my 'sincere' concerns for your G5 Quad problems, then listening to your music, which: "Is much better than anything I could ever create" BTW.

Then you wrote: [Thanks for listening, MacDaddy! Girls only want guys who have great skills.]

I thought, "whaaaat!" Hence my 'Hissy Fit'. I'm not a girl, not homophobic. I responded with agression/wrath. Never heard of the 'Movie' you spoke of. Skills where I come from means: Proficiency, facility, or dexterity acquired or developed through training or experience. An art, trade, or technique.

Total misunderstanding on my part. I apologize. I hope you can see my side? I got it totally wrong. However, where I come from if a man calls another man a girl. "It either turns to romance or a fight!"

Often, things get lost in the translation... Hmmm, maybe that's why my lyrics aren't landing?! This is my last Post. I wish all 440 Members the best creative and trouble free Computer Problems. It's been cool, I've learned much here. Met several brilliant musician and great people. Be cool, be clever, don't Bb.

Peace

PS: hahaworld... I know I am going to hear your music on Radio, TV and see your name up in lights. I wish this for you with every XY Chromosome in me. 'Fo Real'

PSS: No need for a reprimand lepetitmartien. I'll miss you most. But, not in a "girly" way. I'm outta here.

[hahaworld]

Here is some info for anyone who may be having Quad problems like myself. I found this information on some other music websites:

OSX spreads the processing load evenly for all programs EXCEPT LOGIC. This is why LOGIC often runs out of processing power instead of off-loading the extra processes onto the next CPU. This is a leftover behavior from the dual-G4 OS9 setup when Logic controlled processor load by using one CPU for audio and the other for everything else. What this boils down to is that Logic is not aware of the extra processing power available on the Quad. Also, Logic will apparently only use up to 4G of RAM, no matter how much you have installed.

Why Apple has chosen not to address this yet is still a mystery. Logic is now a native app, and it is very frustrating to find this information out from third parties. The folks at Apple will not tell you this information unless you pay them a consultation fee of at least $199. Maybe these problems will be fixed when and if Apple to ramp Logic up to a true 64-bit app, but I haven't heard any news. So, I guess that's a pretty big IF.

I hope this information is helpful to any other Quad users out there.

Those of you more knowledgable than I can feel free to correct any of this information if it is innacurate.

HaHaWorld

p.s. lepetitmartien, thanks for the smley tips
and MacDaddy, thanks for the apology. Good luck to you.

Ce message a été modifié par hahaworld - lun. 15 janv. 2007, 22:15.

[emgcarra]

Please forgive me if I am a little lost here, but when you said G5 Quad, Are you talking of
G5 2.66 GHz Intel Xeon Dual Core 2 machine...??
Thanks in advance.
emgcarra

[mortalengines]

BTW: MacDaddy you really should see Napoleon Dynamite. It's really funny. After that you should rent Nacho Libre, it's by the same director & very funny as well.