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ArchivalAudio
posté dim. 6 févr. 2005, 21:41
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wondering if anyone has actually used the new PreSonus FireBox? Its been available in Europe for a month now... and just became available here in the US. I am wondering if any has tried this unit out... I am strongly considering gettting one. I would like to hear any reviews of this new interface.

any opinions?
power consumption in the feild? etc.

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posté sam. 5 janv. 2008, 01:19
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I'm with you - just got my Ultralite a few days ago biggrin.gif

Used it for a gig the 2nd day I had it and it was flawless. I can run DSP live that I could not with the Firebox - for my band I've been wanting to run a basic session in Logic with reverb (for our vocalist), delay (for my trumpet) and a an EXS24 sampler, at the same time as a rather demanding patch I wrote in Max/MSP for the wireless wind controller I built. With the firebox, I could not get them both to run at once at a reasonable latency without without MaxMSP freezing up and crapping out...

But now with the ultralite, I can suddenly do it on the exact same computer! Congrats MOTU, you rock.

Pres are nice and quiter than the firebox. Also I can turn the main outs all the way up, and jack my amplifier way up, and hardly hear any noise in my speakers! The output is so quiet. And no more whine from Processor Nap - no more need to run a script to turn it off all the time.

The attention to detail in the interface is astounding - from the flash memory with presets for the internal mixer that can be saved either from the computer or the front panel and recalled with or without a computer, to the ability to record back mix 1, which can include the computer's output.

A killer feature for me is the ability to clock-sync through coreaudio - the MOTU can grab its clock from ANY coreaudio interface connected to your mac, without connecting via S/PDIF or any other physical connection! This is awesome for aggregate devices, as you are no longer relying on always imperfect jitter compensation code - the devices are synced. I've tried this for about 8 minutes - no clicks or pops, vs. clicks/pops after about 3 1/2 min when aggregating the same audio interfaces running under their own clocks.

This rocks when the MOTU is aggregated with Cycling'74's Soundflower virtual audio device. I created a new aggregate device of MOTU + Soundflower (16 ch), set the agg. dev's clock to soundflower, then synced the MOTU's clock to soundflower's. This basically adds 16 additional channels of virtual software-to-software I/O to the MOTU interfafce for sending audio back and forth between, say, Max/MSP and Logic! And it works flawlessly (so far) - no clicks or pops, minimal CPU overhead. Make sure to sync to the correct soundflower, as the MOTU clock menu does not specify which is the 2 channel version and which is the 16... so I chose the 2nd one because on my system the 16 chan one appears 2nd in the audioMIDI setup menu. And make sure to A) remember that the corresponding soundflower ins and outs will be offset by 2, B) Not make feedback loops with soundflower smile.gif

Ce message a été modifié par arvidtp - sam. 5 janv. 2008, 01:20.


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- ArchivalAudio   Presonus Firebox Reviews?   dim. 6 févr. 2005, 21:41
- - Yebot   Any chance anyone has tested the Firebox on an old...   lun. 29 août 2005, 17:03
- - paulnajar   Hi All. I've just joined. I found you guys vi...   mer. 7 sept. 2005, 02:29
- - arvidtp   you might want to turn the buffer up a notch to 25...   mer. 7 sept. 2005, 03:24
- - rickenbacker   Yeah, what he said. Particularly the last bit abou...   mer. 7 sept. 2005, 13:22
- - paulnajar   Thanks for the replies chaps. I actually got to t...   ven. 9 sept. 2005, 01:09
- - MoonDark   Anyone using the FireBox with Mac oS tiger 10.4.2 ...   ven. 16 sept. 2005, 16:03
- - twits celso   QUOTE Anyone using the FireBox with Mac oS tiger 1...   ven. 16 sept. 2005, 16:55
- - grassbro   I have been using it (brand new one) for a week an...   sam. 17 sept. 2005, 06:24
- - arvidtp   Thats weird. what do you guys have your buffer si...   sam. 17 sept. 2005, 06:44
- - ArchivalAudio   Hey so anyone can you answer this? sorry if any of...   jeu. 29 sept. 2005, 08:08
- - grassbro   QUOTE (grassbro @ Sep 17 2005, 05:24)I have b...   jeu. 29 sept. 2005, 15:12
- - ArchivalAudio   QUOTE (ArchivalAudio @ Sep 28 2005, 23:08)Hey...   dim. 9 oct. 2005, 23:06
- - groovey   I just finally got myself a FireBox and my my I do...   dim. 16 oct. 2005, 22:26
- - honhim   Hi guys, I am new to firebox. I would really like ...   mar. 18 oct. 2005, 17:26
- - paulnajar   Youn can only address the FireBox direct outs from...   mer. 19 oct. 2005, 00:45
- - honhim   Thanks, I have tried in window. there is signal se...   mer. 19 oct. 2005, 17:17
- - miaba   Another firebox question: this unit is advertised ...   lun. 21 nov. 2005, 21:52
- - groovey   It should mean 6, as it also has s/pdif i/o. Haven...   lun. 21 nov. 2005, 22:02
- - rickenbacker   As it says on the PreSonus website: six inputs, 10...   mar. 22 nov. 2005, 13:28
- - Hearandnow   I have one. It took me a lot longer than I expect...   mer. 23 nov. 2005, 15:41
- - rickenbacker   The preamps in the FireBox are OK, but nothing wil...   mer. 23 nov. 2005, 16:38
- - miaba   Has anyone found a way to route i-tunes through th...   mer. 23 nov. 2005, 23:04
- - rickenbacker   Audio MIDI Setup will take care of that. Set Defau...   jeu. 24 nov. 2005, 12:27
- - miaba   I'm realizing presonus' "6 in simulta...   ven. 25 nov. 2005, 15:41
- - rickenbacker   I'm not entirely sure what you're driving ...   sam. 26 nov. 2005, 19:17
- - miaba   What i was getting at with that last post was my i...   lun. 28 nov. 2005, 20:49
- - rickenbacker   Do you mean record a unique analogue signal on inp...   lun. 28 nov. 2005, 21:24
- - arvidtp   QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Nov 28 2005, 16:24)So y...   lun. 28 nov. 2005, 22:04
- - homebilly   so i have 2 fireboxes and i forgot my powersupply ...   mer. 30 nov. 2005, 03:50
- - grassbro   on the AC: Model:A41510C AC ADAPTER CLASS 2 TRANS...   mer. 30 nov. 2005, 20:12
- - miaba   Rickenbacker, when i highlight record on all odd n...   jeu. 1 déc. 2005, 00:14
- - homebilly   thanks Grassbro i was hoping that it was a 12v dc...   jeu. 1 déc. 2005, 00:42
- - arvidtp   Did i miss something - are u running them off comp...   jeu. 1 déc. 2005, 05:10
- - johnnyboy   I've had the firebox now for about 2 weeks, I...   jeu. 1 déc. 2005, 09:41
- - rickenbacker   Miaba - so you want to record on tracks 1, 3 and 5...   jeu. 1 déc. 2005, 12:05
- - miaba   rickenbacker- many thanks, this was just the info ...   jeu. 1 déc. 2005, 22:14
- - homebilly   i'm running them off of 6 pin FW from the back...   dim. 4 déc. 2005, 11:20
- - johnnyboy   yeah, I have some complaints with the Imac firewir...   lun. 5 déc. 2005, 00:24
- - homebilly   johnnyboy, this is what i found on the apple site ...   lun. 5 déc. 2005, 09:30
- - homebilly   the FB plugged into a powered belkin FW hub has se...   ven. 9 déc. 2005, 11:14
- - arvidtp   Hi all! I just bought a new firewire 800 driv...   lun. 6 mars 2006, 21:52
- - arvidtp   Ok - more info about my problem above... - it seem...   mar. 7 mars 2006, 19:34
- - UP Multimedia   Smart $30.00 investment... Would have only us...   mer. 8 mars 2006, 14:47
- - Pulgar   I very nerarly pulled the trigger on the Firebox t...   sam. 18 mars 2006, 07:03
- - Pulgar   I may have answered my own question after visiting...   sam. 18 mars 2006, 07:13
- - Pulgar   BTW, (sorry to keep feeding this thread) has anyon...   sam. 25 mars 2006, 23:55
- - SadPandas   arvidtp, Im super bummed at your findings with the...   jeu. 30 mars 2006, 19:54
- - Pulgar   I'll jump in here, I eventually went and got t...   jeu. 30 mars 2006, 23:27
- - SadPandas   Pulgar, Thanks so much for the wuick reply, that i...   jeu. 30 mars 2006, 23:35
- - miscellany   Hi, I am having noise issues with my new firebox,...   ven. 31 mars 2006, 13:55
- - grassbro   I'm using the firebox for 5 months now, and it...   ven. 31 mars 2006, 15:32
- - emgcarra   Hey fellas... That kind of noise start at US...   sam. 1 avril 2006, 17:30
|- - hahaworld   Hi, emgcarra! Which of the high end audio fir...   dim. 22 oct. 2006, 03:09
|- - groovey   QUOTE (hahaworld @ Sun 22 Oct 2006, 02:09...   dim. 22 oct. 2006, 11:46
- - SadPandas   I wonder if that new MOTU 'Ultrtalite' i t...   sam. 1 avril 2006, 23:52
- - SadPandas   I can't edit the above post so, ill just expla...   dim. 2 avril 2006, 09:17
- - ArchivalAudio   ok so pops n clicks (like a vinyl lp) DO I NEED A...   mar. 16 mai 2006, 06:47
- - arvidtp   no - a faster hard drive does not sound like somet...   mar. 16 mai 2006, 08:37
- - ArchivalAudio   arvidtp thanx but if I go into AudioMidi Setup and...   ven. 19 mai 2006, 18:42
|- - arvidtp   QUOTE (ArchivalAudio @ Fri 19 May 2006, 13...   dim. 22 oct. 2006, 02:48
- - hahaworld   Thanks for the input, my friend! I appreciate ...   lun. 23 oct. 2006, 05:30
|- - groovey   QUOTE (hahaworld @ Mon 23 Oct 2006, 04:30...   mar. 24 oct. 2006, 17:09
- - rickenbacker   QUOTE I guess that's exactly where RME and MOT...   jeu. 26 oct. 2006, 10:46
|- - groovey   QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Thu 26 Oct 2006, 09...   jeu. 26 oct. 2006, 10:59
- - mechcon   I'm actually going to pick up a firebox tomorr...   ven. 27 oct. 2006, 14:00
- - mechcon   Alrighty... its all plugged in, and sadly... I fin...   sam. 28 oct. 2006, 06:26
- - hahaworld   DON'T DO IT! The Firebox has given me lot...   sam. 28 oct. 2006, 13:21
- - mechcon   Ive used it for a solid hour, and I've no prob...   sam. 28 oct. 2006, 19:37
|- - don says mac   hey, i'm looking at getting either a firebox ...   mer. 22 nov. 2006, 17:32
- - mechcon   oh before you get a firebox, since you have a macb...   mer. 22 nov. 2006, 21:03
|- - don says mac   QUOTE (mechcon @ Wed 22 Nov 2006, 15:03) ...   jeu. 23 nov. 2006, 16:54
- - mechcon   email presonus and find out   jeu. 23 nov. 2006, 21:04
|- - don says mac   QUOTE (mechcon @ Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:04) ...   jeu. 23 nov. 2006, 23:38
- - mechcon   let me know about the response as I have a preson...   jeu. 23 nov. 2006, 23:45
|- - don says mac   QUOTE (mechcon @ Thu 23 Nov 2006, 17:45) ...   mar. 28 nov. 2006, 03:03
- - mechcon   so what your saying is, you plugged in an inspire ...   mar. 28 nov. 2006, 08:59
|- - don says mac   QUOTE (mechcon @ Tue 28 Nov 2006, 02:59) ...   mar. 28 nov. 2006, 17:10
- - mechcon   excellent! too bad about the firebox then i gu...   jeu. 30 nov. 2006, 02:50
|- - arvidtp   QUOTE (mechcon @ Wed 29 Nov 2006, 21:50) ...   jeu. 30 nov. 2006, 10:38
- - KingBarbarossa   Here my experience with the Firebox: The first on...   jeu. 25 janv. 2007, 01:01
- - ArchivalAudio   I have retired my Presonus Firebox... may try to s...   dim. 27 mai 2007, 19:54
- - mechcon   I have now a macbook pro, and yeah, I knew the pro...   dim. 27 mai 2007, 22:57
- - ArchivalAudio   since the Ultralite did not exist when I got my Fi...   ven. 8 juin 2007, 05:39
- - billoetjen   Anybody have unusual trouble recording live electr...   mer. 17 oct. 2007, 21:25
- - mortalengines   Before you switch over to a new interface. I gott...   jeu. 18 oct. 2007, 10:22
- - Mac Daddy   mortalengines. You are right about D/I. It is much...   ven. 19 oct. 2007, 06:25
- - arvidtp   I'm considering getting a MOTU ultralite to re...   ven. 7 déc. 2007, 02:27
|- - ArchivalAudio   well I love my MOTU Ultra lite hands down much bet...   ven. 7 déc. 2007, 05:25
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