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lun. 12 sept. 2005, 17:21
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QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Sep 7 2005, 12:50) Any company that releases a USB 1.1 audio interface in this day and age must have been living in (a) a cave or (b) a commercial vacuum for the past couple of years. Pro Tools, schmo tools - the spec of this product, released into a very competitive marketplace in 2005, is beyond a joke. In fact, it's almost an insult to anyone who ends up seduced by Digi's glossy adverts and winds up buying one, only to find they can't use it with any other software and they're stuck with a product that was hardly cutting edge three years ago.
A lot of people like to record everything at home. They won't be transferring to a bigger setup in a big shiny studio, ever. They're only going to buy one interface and they'd like it to be a good one. So, IMHO, Digi are selling these people very short from the get go. Of course, if it's only intended for Butch Vig to knock up a few rough demos on the plane whilst on tour, it's a fine product.
But for a home or project studio, it's sorely lacking in too many areas. For less money, you can have a FireBox, a Saffire, an FA-66, an M-Audio box etc etc and use whatever software YOU want to use. And still be able to record rough demos on the plane whilst on tour.
Also, increasing the internal sample rate of a sequencer doesn't improve the live acoustic audio you've already recorded - it just makes the files bigger. You don't capture more detail retrospectively. You need an interface that captures and converts at a higher sample rate in the first place. The Mbox 2 is not that interface. Yes, I'm fully aware that the limit of input into the Mbox its internal sample rate. What Bobbi was suggesting is using the Mbox to transfer files. He's got a killer system as is. I was trying to understand WHY. I will say that if wish to mix internally, it's not your interface that is limitation. Digidesign is not marketing the product as cutting edge. It is marketing it as budget ProTools system with the latest ProTools software. I see this kind of war going on all the time. ProTools vs. Whatever, PC vs. Mac. You don't have to the latest stuff to make good music. A lot of music is still made with old gear. You guys out there that are software snobs or have a chip on your shoulder about some particular gear are the worse sort. People poo-poo a product because of their fears. I guess there's always got be something to hate, eh? It just makes me laugh. I read an article about the Beastie Boys' last release. No live instruments and they used Reason for everything except vocals! They're not in a forum bitching about ProTools or some other thing. They're making music with the same stuff that we can buy. I could take a Reason session (96k sample rate max) that I made in ProTools LE and give it to them and they could import right into their killer ProTools rig. Simple. If you don't understand the value in that, you're just plain stupid and have no idea about how things are done. I don't even have ProTools, either! My mind IS big enough to see the value of that kind of rig. People don't like how it looks? My GOD you're idiots! Do you ever look at music? WTF?!?! The end product is what matters. What your EARS hear NOT what your eyes see. This place must be full of teenagers or something. Small little minds. This isn't about you, personally. I'm NOT attacking you. People just have to get over the fact that you don't need the latest software or hardware to make good music. 196k sample rate with $hitty music doesn't make the music better! So, people, quit racing your computers, put away your credit cards and make some music! How do I delete my account on here? I've wasted too much time on this.
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news Digidesign MBox 2 USB ven. 2 sept. 2005, 16:02 BobbiStyle NO fw 400/800 and NO 24/96Khz?? Idiots. Everyone e... ven. 2 sept. 2005, 16:02 lotan Can somebody tell me what's the new deal on th... ven. 2 sept. 2005, 19:09 MKallen very, very weird. no higher support for 96k and f... ven. 2 sept. 2005, 19:25 mapmap yeah i don't get that handle at all....
does ... sam. 3 sept. 2005, 07:15 Rockyroad > does it serve some other function? like to pr... dim. 4 sept. 2005, 00:45 thedomus At least the old one had two headphone outs...usef... dim. 4 sept. 2005, 15:57 beatfreq I'm guessing the license for the Focusrite pre... lun. 5 sept. 2005, 03:59 thepzl joke. just a dongle to run PTLE at only 48k, crip... mar. 6 sept. 2005, 02:48 doggg powder 48khz....pfffffffff.....
really innovative...lol..... mar. 6 sept. 2005, 14:17 celticdale QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 2 2005, 15:02)NO fw 4... mar. 6 sept. 2005, 18:00 celticdale QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 2 2005, 15:02)NO fw 4... mar. 6 sept. 2005, 19:21 BobbiStyle QUOTE (celticdale @ Sep 6 2005, 11:21)QUOTE (... mar. 6 sept. 2005, 20:05 celticdale QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 6 2005, 19:05)QUOTE (... mar. 6 sept. 2005, 21:00 rickenbacker Any company that releases a USB 1.1 audio interfac... mer. 7 sept. 2005, 13:50 dave-g It's so sad to see "what could have been... mer. 7 sept. 2005, 14:57 toddr So I paid $500 for a presonus firepod brand n... mer. 7 sept. 2005, 23:37 dangt Gee, you people are making a lot of fuss over his,... jeu. 8 sept. 2005, 04:10 toddr well your right about that, go make music, its ... ven. 9 sept. 2005, 01:03 dave-g I guess the thing that really burns me up is that ... ven. 9 sept. 2005, 14:26 citypigeon i like the fact you get a version of melodyne with... ven. 9 sept. 2005, 17:37 dave-g it's funny you mentioned the industrial design... ven. 9 sept. 2005, 18:25 teleblues Well, Ive been waiting patiently for the new Mbox,... dim. 11 sept. 2005, 19:29 thedomus You have to remember that design is a personal thi... dim. 11 sept. 2005, 19:43 ullanta QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 6 2005, 19:05)QUOTE (... lun. 12 sept. 2005, 05:20 BobbiStyle QUOTE (ullanta @ Sep 11 2005, 21:20)QUOTE (Bo... lun. 12 sept. 2005, 05:56 abcdaniel Yeah, of course the music is the most important. A... lun. 12 sept. 2005, 18:42 _T2k_ Two words: ridiculously overpriced.
Asking ... lun. 12 sept. 2005, 19:14 rickenbacker celticdale didn't last long, did he? mar. 13 sept. 2005, 16:14 toddr yes celticdale I see your point, the reason anyo... ven. 16 sept. 2005, 03:12 thetaxi.AN971 I would venture to say that Digi didn't upgrad... ven. 30 sept. 2005, 20:05 toddr Yes you have a point there, its all about what we... ven. 30 sept. 2005, 20:09 gkeys Man, I've been wanting to say this for a long ... dim. 9 oct. 2005, 14:07 BobbiStyle Hi GKeys
Actually, the issues you have with the M... dim. 9 oct. 2005, 15:50 gkeys Hi Bobbi,
Thanks for the comment. How about the ... lun. 10 oct. 2005, 10:08 geokie8 OK I'm brand new (both to this forum as well t... mer. 19 oct. 2005, 02:06 dave-g welcome geoki, i have the feeling you aren't g... mer. 19 oct. 2005, 16:17 geokie8 Hey, thx for taking the time. I'll check thes... jeu. 20 oct. 2005, 00:23 lepetitmartien As long as we are not a Pc site at all (doesn... jeu. 20 oct. 2005, 00:49 abcdaniel Has anyone bought Mbox2? Anyone tried it? What are... jeu. 20 oct. 2005, 10:48
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