Vocal Production Options

[dubster]

Hello,
I'm getting OK results recording vocals in pro-tools using a good condeser mike with compression and EQ, but i'm just not happy with it. I've been listening to a lot of really good vocal production of people with great, and not so great, voices such as Sufjan Stevens, Alice in Chains, A Perfect Circle, Neil Young, but it s not happening on my recordings.
Anyone got good techniques, effects chains, favourite effects etc?
Favourite vocalists?
Cheers

[dubster]

Thenks for your reply,
I've gotta say though that i read an interview with the Peppers' producer on Californication ( Rick Rubin? Could be wrong) in which he bitched about Anthonys voice and claimed he had to comp almost every word....can't be that bad cos they sound awesome live....
I found a very useful set of articles on the digidesign website about vox production. I agree that without an excellent performance to begin with there is little you can do, but for my style of music i'm happy to drench the vocal in effects. It seems impossible, though, on a modest system like mine (G4 with protools 002) to lay down the 30 odd vocal tracks the pros talk about. Heres my setup since posting this question which is working much better; Mike-preamp-waves renaissance vox-bus to stereo- L1 Ultramaximizer- waves Q4 EQ- Desser.
This is still far from ideal but after layering a couple o tracks it sounds pretty cool. Cutting frequencies that conflict with the vocal
formant range has also made a difference.
This was all a lot easier when i sucked!!
Cheers