Logic Crashing On Tiger... Options

[jhanna]

Hi

I've got an IMac G5 with 2 gig Ram, been useing Logic 7.0 for a few years and never had any problems, i recently bought a MOTU 8 PRE and had to upgrade to OSX 10.4 in order to instal the MOTU software, since then i've had problems with the Logic crashing, when i'm in an arrangement, sometimes if i go to save the arr as a "save as" i can type in the new version name but when i hit return to save it it crashes, it does actually save the version (thankfully!) but its still not right, its a bug i guess that shouldnt be there....yesterday the Mac crashed twice fully and today its crashed Logic twice already..... does anyone know why this is happening? i dont want to upgrade to 7.2 or 8 yet as i dont want to have to reinstal all my extra plug ins and im half way through an important project and cant risk more problems.

Thanks
J

[Mac Daddy]

Never, ever, ever, ever change a "Working System" ever.

[delium]

bonjour ;
(je travaille sur Logic express 8)
(désolé si mon anglais est très approximatif )
as tu essayez de désactiver un à un les Plugin Audio units dans le gestionnaire "d'audio units"
(menu/préférences/gestionnaires audio units )

cordialement
jean luc
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Translation test
hello;
(I work on Logic express 8)
(grieved if my English is very approximate)
have you try to deactivate one to one the Audio Plugin units in
the administrator "of audio units"
(menu/preferences/administrative audio units)

cordially John luc

[jhanna]

Merci I'll try that....thanks for the tip.

and MAC DADDY- how is that helpful? or realistic? "never ever ever change a "working system" " right, so never ever ever buy a better audio interface? and never ever ever get a better sound quality from your studio..... if i took your advice i'd still be running an atari 1040 ste with cubase.

[ronaldl]

I agree with delium. You've got a new interface AND a system upgrade . . . a good way to begin troubleshooting is to disable any third-party plugins or peripherals, and then start adding them one-by-one to see what happens (OR just deactivate the plugs one-by-one.) Next, check to see if you have any drivers that need updating. I know this is difficult when you're in the middle of a project but you need to do some basic detective work.

Also, you might want to double check Logic's save-to path (and if you're saving to an external drive I assume it's properly formatted?) Finally, it's a good general rule of thumb to repair disk permissions with Disk Utility after any software installs.

Ron

Ce message a été modifié par ronaldl - dim. 21 sept. 2008, 14:19.

[emgcarra]

Hi: I would like to add some cents to your question, but "ronaldi" is absolutely right, so please take his advice and do that awful but necessary job...It´s almost ever, a matter of updating drivers.... one by one...

Good luck

G

[mortalengines]

Ok...MacDaddy has a point...if it works and doesn't slow you down, don't mess with fixing it. However, there are times where you will want to get a new DAW upgrade or interface....OK that is fine. NEVER be an early adopter....that is probably what he should have said. I personally wouldn't have bought the first edition of the G5 or MacPro...that would have been insane....let the other technofetishists be the first kids on the block to be the real beta-beta testers (the beta testers who actually paid to be beta testers). Also, ALWAYS check system compatibility for all hardware before upgrading/updating DAWS, OS, or interfaces....unless, of course you are willing to go as long as 6 months before you can use that (or a new) version of "whatever-it-is" once the developers finally get their act together and are ready to share their "newest and greatest" wonder with the rest of the world.

MacDaddy speaks from experience......and you know what? Fat Boy Slim still uses an Atari 1040ST.....How does your stuff sound?

www.myspace.com/mortal_engines

Ce message a été modifié par mortalengines - lun. 22 sept. 2008, 07:07.

[jhanna]

"MacDaddy speaks from experience......and you know what? Fat Boy Slim still uses an Atari 1040ST.....How does your stuff sound?"

My stuff sounds totally different to FatBoy Slim , for a start he doesnt record a band full band , in fact i doubt he ever uses mic inputs and to honest if you beleive he still uses an Atari then youll beleive everything you read.....i doubt very much its anything more than a blast of nostalgia in his studio... and for the type of music he creates its hardly pushing the boundaries of technology, its just loops and samples....

Dont comment on something you don't even know about , it just makes you look really stupid.



Note to any further replies...... your advice is welcome but please will everyone stop telling me i shouldn't have upgraded my system or should have checked compatibilty ....I've been doing this for 17 years im not a novice, The MOTU 8 PRE states in the manual, it is compatible with OSX 10.3.9 or higher, however when you instal the disc its states it's only compatible with OSX 10.4 or higher.....

I've already had some really good help from a couple of members who have given non-judgmental advice on the information i have given and im going to run with that.

unless you have anything further to offer by way of help please dont bother.

[mortalengines]

"MacDaddy speaks from experience......and you know what? Fat Boy Slim still uses an Atari 1040ST.....How does your stuff sound?"

My stuff sounds totally different to FatBoy Slim , for a start he doesnt record a band full band , in fact i doubt he ever uses mic inputs and to honest if you beleive he still uses an Atari then youll beleive everything you read.....i doubt very much its anything more than a blast of nostalgia in his studio... and for the type of music he creates its hardly pushing the boundaries of technology, its just loops and samples....

Dont comment on something you don't even know about , it just makes you look really stupid.

Ok amigo....first of all...you get to live with the mess that YOU created...don't expect any sympathy from me or anyone else here on this forum... I really gotta note the genuine arrogance of several of your posts...you are so experienced and talented and yet...your rig is SO SCREWED....hmmm.......Oh... by the way...yes FBS does record individuals...he has kept up with the times...he just prefers to do all of his sequencing on the good ol' 1040......I wouldn't do it personally...but then again I wouldn't knock him or anyone else who still uses the stuff....


Are you implying somehow that what you are doing pushes the boundaries of technology? Well....it ain't working...did you push too hard? You can come back with something really cute and pithy to all of this but you know what?......My rig actually works....I am recording on it now....it sounds great.......once again....how does your stuff sound?

www.myspace.com/mortal_engines

[jhanna]

i've reported you to the forum administrator, you clearly have anger issues.

[Mac Daddy]

mortalengines, thanks...

I do feel somewhat ancient when I say "Never change a working system". If you are starting "New" it is a very exciting time. I promise you I would have ALL the latest and greatest being offered. Like I did five or six years ago when I first built my "Home Studio". It was solid. When I hit the Main Power Switch everything came to life. I did not realize I had become subtly addicted and wanted more software and gear to add to my arsenal and I would surely conquer the world if I only knew what any of this stuff does?!

Against my Technicians advice, I added new stuff. I had to call him back and pay him AGAIN to fix my error of "changing/adding" to my Established System. Did I learn? No. It gets worst. Still, new stuff is coming out and I just gotta have it. Expensive Software, but what about my VST? I did not call the "Original" Technician, again, ever, I felt too stupid, so I get a "New" Technician... Changes EVERYTHING AROUND.... ARRGHHH! So, much time and money spent, sleep lost... and I still DON'T use one third of the stuff 'n thangs!

Software changes so fast it is crazy, the companies and ad campaigns make you think "This is what I have always wanted/needed" but, expect the domino effect...

Sorry, long winded as always, but if your two, three thousand Dollar, Pounds or Euro system is running don't screw it up by adding a hundred fifty dollar, pounds, Euro Software that "Shuts Down Your System"... It AIN'T WORTH IT.

"You can't sleep a wink, when your system goes blink, make you turn to drink, don't care what you think, sign this in ink... Never, ever, ever Change a working system, no, no, no, no, noooo.... don't do dat.... Thank you dat wuz brought to you by old dumb ass Mac Daddy... "Going to the States tomorrow... Gonna have fun and shooooop!" Be sharp, don't Bb.

Ce message a été modifié par Mac Daddy - mar. 23 sept. 2008, 10:26.

[PAUL R]

i've reported you to the forum administrator, you clearly have anger issues.

Hi,
I just dropped by and have read this thread - jhanna - you appear to have not only a system problem but an attitude problem.
I have used this forum many times requesting help / advice and can only praise people that take some time to offer advice.

Reading this thread you seem to dismiss or get angry if anyone dares to criticise or offer advice that you don't want to hear.
As a musician / producer you should realise that we are all on the same side and be more pleasant to people that take time to address your issues - whether you like the reply or not !!
Get angry at governments, bankers or officials not fellow Mac users / artists.

I had a couple ideas that may help your situation but will not post them in fear of having my head ripped off by you.......

Hope you resolve your computer problem and that you learn to treat people with more respect.

Regards P


Ce message a été modifié par PAUL R - mar. 23 sept. 2008, 11:22.

[jhanna]

im not angry Paul, my issue is resolved thanks for the email anyway, ive had some very welcome feedback from some members and some very negative comments from others.... i think youve taken a biased view of the posts, maybe you should re read if it bothers you so much.

Ce message a été modifié par lepetitmartien - jeu. 25 sept. 2008, 14:57.

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[deaconblue]

jhana,

What resolved your crashing problem with Logic in 10.4.x with the MOTU 8 Pre? Just curious.

peace.

"You can't sleep a wink, when your system goes blink, make you turn to drink, don't care what you think, sign this in ink... Never, ever, ever Change a working system, no, no, no, no, noooo.... don't do dat.... Thank you dat wuz brought to you by old dumb ass Mac Daddy... "Going to the States tomorrow... Gonna have fun and shooooop!" Be sharp, don't Bb.

That has a good beat already.

;-)

Sorry I have been out of it for a while. New record label launched, new company formed. Missing hanging with my peeps on the 440 forums.

However, to add to the line of defense on both sides.

Jhana,

MacDaddy offers good advice. Perhaps the only caveat that was not clear is 'if you are currently working on a project and need to get it finished, do not add new variables to your situation until that project is ready to mix/master or put in the can'. Doing so only opens yourself up to unnecessary risk.

Everyone else who responded in defense of our users and our forum, I am sure that we have all had a time when a project we are working on gets hung on extraneous issues; new software, a recalcitrant piece of hardware, a stoned musician, whatever... When those things happen and they are out of our artistic control, our hackles go up, our ire is stirred and our patience is strained. We should all be able to relate to Jhana's situation and take that extra deep breath, look past the frustration and attempt to help out a fellow Mac User and artist. As it is apparent that is exactly what happened here.

Rock on!

It is good to see the passion is still on the forum and that creativity is still in bloom.

All the best from ATX!

peace.

Ce message a été modifié par deaconblue - mer. 24 sept. 2008, 02:49.

[PAUL R]

im not angry Paul, my issue is resolved thanks for the email anyway, ive had some very welcome feedback from some members and some very negative comments from others.... i think youve taken a biased view of the posts, maybe you should re read if it bothers you so much.

Yep = I re read it and stick to what I said....... your tone is kinda arrogant and dismissive.







Ce message a été modifié par lepetitmartien - jeu. 25 sept. 2008, 14:58.

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[lepetitmartien]

Mhmm a strong case of conflicting attitudes and necessary agrement to disagree…
I'm sure you'd all be friend round a beer or coffee, or better: jammin'.

jhanna, the fact the answers you get don't suit you doesn't mean they are not good advice, even if it's stuff you _know_. Mac daddy may be sometimes blunt but usually never answers for nothing, and he's a qualified professional never letting down even newbies. it wasn't the answer you wanted/needed first that's all. We have to care about giving help for all, and without your background, it includes stuff "for beginners" in the answers too.

Now the really important stuff we need to know as it's the real point of all, what did the job in the end? That's helpful for others too. And we all need a drink don't we? (Perrier for me)

[mortalengines]

lepetitmartien, I would gladly sit down with you and have a Perrier if I wasn't on the opposite side of the world.....

[deaconblue]

lepetitemartien,

Well said. And I totally agree. A jam session would totally cement the 'bound-ness' quality of the posters. Or a beer, coffee, perrier.

peace and good music forum-mates.