Os X Drivers In Beta : Tascam Stuff, need I say more? Options

[lepetitmartien]

rickenbacker Jul 26 2002, 12:40

A couple of weeks ago, I got a US-224 on loan from Tascam and they e-mailed me an OS X driver to use with it. It worked beautifully, so I could record audio in Melodyne, Bias Peak LE, Sound Studio etc in OS X. Keep an eye on the Tascam website if you've got a 224!  :D

hughster Jul 27 2002, 04:09

Also, don't forget the TASCAM US-428 - I've been using this recently with Ableton Live and Reason under 10.1.5 with considerable success (MIDI and audio and control). It also seems to work well with Bias stuff, but i am not yet convinced enough to start using Deck.

now tell us ALL

[salparadise99]

Lepetitmartien,

Does the US 428 work well with Jaguar OS X 10.2? Tascam's site is a little misleading.

I am thinking of buying a new G4 Power Mac but want to make sure it will work with my 428.

If they do work together, are there still bugs being worked out?

If not, what's the comparable desktop Mac I should buy?

Lastly, as a general question, is there a way to receive an e-mail notification every time someone responds to a topic that I have initiated? If so, I couldn't find it.

I enjoy reading your posts.

[damann]

hi salparadise,
you didn't mention the software you're using. only logic audio, live, reason, peak, spark, melodyne and soundstudio currently work under osx, i use logic, the only "pro" quality sequencer amongst these! so here's the state of play with logic.
currently, the only audio interface driver that works under 10.2 is motu's 828 driver.
the only audio drivers listed by emagic as working under 10.1.5 are emi 2/6, m-audio delta 1010lt and motu 828.
apart from the emagic emi 2/6 driver these are all beta's anyway!
this situation will obviously change very quickly.
as far as the notification question, over to lpm...

[rickenbacker]

Salparadise99, I think when you used the phrase "are there still bugs being worked out?", you hit the nail on the head. It's going to be that way for many months to come. Eventually everything will make it to 10.2 and work nice and stable, but right now it's all a bit up in the air - hardware, software, Apple OS. There isn't one perfect OS X system right now, really. I'm sure every audio/midi company is working on their solutions, but it all takes time. So either wait until everything is ready and rocksteady or stick with 10.1.5 for now (or even 9.x, God forbid). You CAN get something fantastic working in 10.1.5. Just maybe not everything you'd like.

[btovsky]

currently the us428 has mixed results with 10.2.1
it seems to work ok with peak 3.1 and itunes, not
at all with reason and some other software currently
in beta, to be released soon. there is mostly silence
from tascam on this issue, with several threads on
the tascam bbs addressing this topic. no one seems
to be sure whether this is a coremidi/coreaudio
problem or a driver problem. feels like everyone is
waitingfor the dust to settle on osx.

[Levon River]

feels like everyone is
waitingfor the dust to settle on osx.

I'd say the dust settled on OS X, musically, about two years ago. Then came the falling leaves. Then came the snow. Then the rain and floods and mud, followed by volcanic ash and rubble.

It remains to be seen if anything at this point can dig it out.

Damann: is the Event EZBus also broken under 10.2? I thought they had a driver for Logic. Of course it takes an accounting firm to try and keep track of what works and what won't with what. And, of course, when.

[damann]

[quote=Levon River,Sep 28 2002, 01:02][QUOTE=btovsky,Sep 27 2002, 20:56]

Damann: is the Event EZBus also broken under 10.2? I thought they had a driver for Logic. Of course it takes an accounting firm to try and keep track of what works and what won't with what. And, of course, when. [/quote]
i would imagine so!
i've heard nothing about a driver for this.
when in rome...
realise your mistake and catch the first flight back to paradise!

[FreeMidnight]

It would be sooo nice if Tascam port Giga Sampler to OSX!!!

[deleted]

Damann: is the Event EZBus also broken under 10.2?

I've just seen an annoucement from the dev who made the driver for OS X (BusError).
At the moment, it supports 8 channels in/out, at 24bit / 48kHz.
Not finished yet, but usable, he said.

Bye.

[Levon River]

Damann: is the Event EZBus also broken under 10.2?

I've just seen an annoucement from the dev who made the driver for OS X (BusError).

Well, who else would be tapped to write a driver for something called "EZBus" but "buserror."

Just pulling your chain, buserror.

At the moment, it supports 8 channels in/out, at 24bit / 48kHz.

Official Request for Clarification: Okay, now, I just got it from what I will describe as "an unimpeachable source" that Event is planning to have Mac support for their EZ8 PCI card, which is the only way I know of that the EZBus can push 8 channels in and out of a computer. It sure ain't going to do it through USB.

So I am aquiver with questions (which I guess only buserror can answer, but probably only within the strictures of a non-disclosure agreement--which probably means not at all.) But of course I'm going to ask anyway.

1. When you say buserror made "the driver for OS X," uh, what driver is that? Generally, the OS X driver for the EZBus itself, meaning, I guess, for the USB I/O? Or...

2. Is he doing the driver for the EZ8? Or...

3. Is he doing/did he do (sigh) drivers for both? Or...

4. Does it all mean something else altogether that somebody needs to walk me through without using big words?

Not finished yet, but usable, he said.

What the heck does that mean? These, BTW, aren't just idle curiosity questions. I am about --><-- that far away from springing for the EZBus on the basis that I *will*, at some point, be able to push and pull 8 channels through the digital I/O, so any specific information would be greatly appreciated.

[deleted]

1. When you say buserror made "the driver for OS X," uh, what driver is that? Generally, the OS X driver for the EZBus itself, meaning, I guess, for the USB I/O? Or...

2. Is he doing the driver for the EZ8? Or...

We're going right in the off-topic way, but anyway, i'll try to clarify a bit, till BusError jumps in the thread ;-)

Yes, the PCI card is the EZ8: see http://www.event1.com/Products/Digital/EZ8.html for more details. No USB or Firewire, it's a PCI thing.

3. Is he doing/did he do (sigh) drivers for both? Or...

I don't know. I thought the EZ8 could also work as a standalone ADAT i/o interface, and not only as an EZbus expansion... Am i wrong (BusError)? Maybe BusError also did the EZbus drivers for OS X? Hint, hint.

Not finished yet, but usable, he said.

What the heck does that mean

Simply that it's on a beta stage, ie not usable by a normal human being at the moment :-) There is no SMUX support (96kHz) yet, for example.

Sorry for not being so informative, Event is quite new for me (no previous OS 9 support!).

Bye.

[Levon River]

We're going right in the off-topic way, but anyway, i'll try to clarify a bit, till BusError jumps in the thread ;-)

Yeah, you're right, so I've created a new topic. But to clarify the clarification before leaping out of this thread...

Yes, the PCI card is the EZ8: ...No USB or  Firewire, it's a PCI thing.

I don't know how we wound up here: I'm familiar with the exact I/O capabilities of both the EZBus and the EZ8. I didn't suggest that the EZ8 had USB.

I've laid it all out in the new topic.

I thought the EZ8 could also work as a standalone ADAT i/o interface, and not only as an EZbus expansion... Am i wrong (BusError)?

I don't know how we wound up here: I also never suggested that the EZ8 *didn't* work as a standalone ADAT i/o interface.

Maybe BusError also did the EZbus drivers for OS X? Hint, hint.

Well, now I feel like I've *really* fallen down a rabbit hole, because this entire discussion of this started right here:

Damann: is the Event EZBus also broken under 10.2?

I've just seen an annoucement from the dev who made the driver for OS X (BusError). At the moment, it supports 8 channels in/out, at 24bit / 48kHz.

I had asked about the *EZBus* (not EZ8) being broken under 10.2. You wrote in response to *that question* about a driver being written by BusError supporting 8 channels in/out. That *has* to have something to do with the DIGITAL I/O capabilities of the EZBus, because you C A N N O T put 8 channels I/O through the USB ports of the *EZBus*. Period. Not gonna' do it. That's why I asked if what BusError had written had to do with the *EZ8*, because that's the interface you connect an *EZBus* through for 8 channels, unless you have some *other* card/interface that has either S/PDIF and/or Lightpipe.

Hope we're all clear on this now. If not, maybe we can keep hacking away at it in the new thread I started. <Phew!>

[Levon River]

I missed this one when I replied before:

Event is quite new for me (no previous OS 9 support!).

Bollocks.

Here's their support page for setting up the EZBus to work with Cubase and Nuendo under OS 9.x:

http://www.event1.com/Support/EZbus/Contro...ol/Mac_VST.html

Their manuals also give the MIDI control specs for rolling your own control-surface maps for, e.g., DP.

The problem with the EZBus under 9 (and OS X 10.1.x, as I understand it) was that the USB I/O could carry audio only--not MIDI:

http://www.event1.com/Support/EZbus/Installation.htm

(Scroll down to Mac installation instructions.) You had to have a separate MIDI interface connected to your computer.

This is *supposed* to be handled under 10.2 (more evidence of OS-level crud pre-Jaguar), with the USB connection handling both the audio (two channel) and MIDI I/O of the unit, as it does under WinDoze. And maybe this is where BusError might be of more help, but he appears to be AWOL.

[deleted]

I feel a bit ridiculous here, but anyway, thanks Levon for all those clarifications. BTW, what's "bollocks"?

I just brought an info that i thought usefull for you folks, even if i never heard of the event's works before (till the BusError thread in the french forums). Why so less communication from this company (in France, IME)?

Sorry for all the confusion, i'll shut my mouth next time :-)

Bye.

[BusError]

Hehe I was not reading this thread, sorry to appear to be slow ;-)

Anyway, I replied on the other, relevant, one ;D

[Levon River]

I feel a bit ridiculous here, but anyway, thanks Levon for all those clarifications.

Yuke! Don't beat yourself up. Let *me* do that.

You're a good sport, and I know how much confusion I waded through trying to get this far.

BusError straightened us *both* out over in the EZBus thread, and it sounds like *really* good news.

BTW, what's "bollocks"?

Oh, something those haughty British say. And there is no American slang equivalent I can print without having a moderator chasing me around with a club.

Sorry for all the confusion, i'll shut my mouth next time :-)

You do, and I'll *really* get on your case. Thanks very much for your input. I very much appreciate it. And do see what BusError wrote; I think you'll like it.

[lepetitmartien]

I saw in another thread that Tascam drivers are supposed to be finished.

Can the tascamer confirm it (I saw final versions in the download section at tascam's but I don't use tascam stuff so can't be sure it works…) so I can release the thread that everyone can live happy ever after

[xingu]

Sorry LPM, I was going to write something, but somewhere along the line this turned into an EZBus thread...

Yes, Tascam released Jaguar drivers beginning with the beta version 3.2.0 in early March and the 'final' version (3.2.1) earlier this month. Recommended for 10.2.3 and up. For me, the beta driver finally cleared up all the nasty clicks/pops/stuttering when trying to record audio, but it caused kernel panics in certain instances that appear to have been cleared up with the new driver. I've had no problems running the latest driver with Logic 5.5 under 10.2.4 on my G4 iMac.

There are still some rumblings at the Tascam board from people experiencing audio fizzling out/cracking up/dropping out. This could possibly be linked to dual processor machines, but nobody 'official' has offered any input or help for those people yet. 10.2.5 does not appear to fix this (I haven't yet upgraded because 10.2.4 works perfectly for me).

So, yes, you can close/release this thread, as the Tascam USB drivers (for the US-428 and US-224) are no longer beta. Working flawlessly for everyone, no, but do they ever?

And finally - The US-122 is supposed to be OSX-ready once it hits the market (due soon?), and I would assume the same will be true for the new FW-1884 firewire interface/controller (due May/June).