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 mar. 13 mars 2001, 15:57
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 Junior Member  Groupe : Members Messages : 165 Inscrit : 12 janv. 01 Lieu : Brussels - BE Membre no 183  |
As you may know, at the end of this month, Apple with launch MacOS X, the new MacOS.
Did you notice that no announcements was made about music making with this OS. OMS, a vital element for midi communication IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH macOS X, and is no longer developped. No replacement was even announced! This mean NO MIDI (compatible with existing applications) on mac OS X. Audio drivers will need to be rewritten to work in OSX, and reports show that the system sound interface (Sound manager) was not improved, or is even worse than the actual version.... It sounds like Apple completely forgets its musician customers base! -itunes is a kind software, but it doesn't replace the needs for WORKING midi and audio application- SHOULD WE BUY A PC TO MAKE MUSIC NOW ????? :-( -------------------- Prutulz
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mar. 13 mars 2001, 16:32
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 Newbie Groupe : Members Messages : 6 Inscrit : 13 mars 01 Lieu : New York - US Membre no 363 |
you're right! :-(
A friend of mine, working close to Apple (cupertino) told me that (pro) music making is even not discussed in the OS X dev team. iTunes for all! arrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!! (Edited by xfiles at Mar. 13, 2001 - 15:34) -------------------- phil from NY
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mer. 14 mars 2001, 07:59
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 Moderator  Groupe : Moderators Messages : 3,768 Inscrit : 07 déc. 00 Lieu : PARIS - FR Membre no 23 |
You are like virgins
 Remember USB story MIDI is too has-been and maby some people somewhere, by the bridge  are thinking about that don't worry be happy 
-------------------- Plombier, DéZingueur de HP, ferblantier
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mer. 14 mars 2001, 14:37
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Junior Member Groupe : Members Messages : 165 Inscrit : 12 janv. 01 Lieu : Brussels - BE Membre no 183 |
I clearly remember USB:
USB is faster, smarter, and more convenient than serial BUT: 3 years after, Midi synchronisation still not work on USB: You have to put a stealth port to get a rock solid midi sync (with an old serial midi interface) And it was just a hardware thing... In 10 days, it would be a software thing. I can bet you than in the 2 coming years, 80% of the musical softwares (except the major ones) won't work on OS X. If as a result, we could get a faster midi, a unified plug-in architecture, a clever OS sound management (like windows DOES with activeX)....i would acept it as an evolution, but at this time, nothing is announced to be improved: We just hope that it will be compatible.... Not really funny
-------------------- Prutulz
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mer. 21 mars 2001, 18:19
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 Member Groupe : Members Messages : 74 Inscrit : 01 mars 01 Lieu : Orleans - CA Membre no 322 |
Maybe FreeMIDI will save the day...
Personally I am staying away from OS X due to its high memory requirements. -------------------- Abbie
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sam. 24 mars 2001, 22:08
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 Newbie Groupe : Members Messages : 2 Inscrit : 24 mars 01 Lieu : Germany Membre no 386 |
There will be a Midi solution for OS X. The guy that did OMS now is working for Apple.
But nobody know _when_ Midi will appear in OS X. As we all know, Applle doesn't care about musicians... Ray |
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mer. 28 mars 2001, 14:46
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Junior Member Groupe : Members Messages : 165 Inscrit : 12 janv. 01 Lieu : Brussels - BE Membre no 183 |
Anyone tested OS X with Midi applications ?
Does something work? :o -------------------- Prutulz
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jeu. 26 avril 2001, 16:26
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According to various beta-testing mailing-list of major editors (Emagic, Steinberg, Native-instrument,..), programmers all say the same things:
Yes OSX seems great, but we won't develop something before Apple communicates us the standards about MIDI and Audio programming. At this time, there are no guidelines or API, and we won't waste our time and money to re-invent the wheel. So we are waiting. Considering that adapting applications to this new OS is a major work, and that Apple just said nothing to programmers at this time, it will take a while before anything work on OSX to make music. What will we do this summer, when OSX will be the only OS running on new macs. Apple always had a leadership position in the music business, but with the PC market growing every days and no softwares compatible with OSX, what are we suppose to do in the next month: throw our macs and buy a PC...:( Nobody at Apple care about the music market or what? I'm really scared :( David K. -------------------- David K.
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jeu. 26 avril 2001, 22:32
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This is not as bad as it seems.
Even when Apple will start shipping hardware with MacOS X pre-installed, don't forget that you still will be able to boot on MacOS9.1 to run all non X native software. This will be true for a looooong time ! So keep it easy guys...
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lun. 21 mai 2001, 17:10
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According to this MacCentral article, writer John Krogh (Keyboard Magazine) strongly recommended against musicians using Mac OS X.
-------------------- Soif, MacMusic Webmaster
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lun. 21 mai 2001, 17:48
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Junior Member Groupe : Members Messages : 165 Inscrit : 12 janv. 01 Lieu : Brussels - BE Membre no 183 |
This Apple developper page annouces sessions about audio & Midi in MacOS X, at the WWDC 2001
Let's hope :/ -------------------- Prutulz
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sam. 26 mai 2001, 03:39
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I dont use OS X or know anybody that does but.. my understanding is that you will be able to boot with classic OS so there wouldnt be a problem with using older software
I choose to upgrade only to OS 9 due to budget and with a G3 I dont think OS X would be much of an advantage. |
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ven. 1 juin 2001, 03:22
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Looking at my OS X core systems, I can see folders named 'ASIO' and other audio related folders, looks like some work is already in the way...
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ven. 1 juin 2001, 03:32
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Look at this:
http://developer.apple.com/audio/coreaudio.html |
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ven. 1 juin 2001, 14:54
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Junior Member Groupe : Members Messages : 165 Inscrit : 12 janv. 01 Lieu : Brussels - BE Membre no 183 |
thanks for the link!
it seems good !!! Let's see what hapen..... -------------------- Prutulz
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dim. 3 juin 2001, 05:19
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Yeah thanks!
Looks like Mac OS X will also be midi and audio ready... Let's wait a little... |
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jeu. 12 juil. 2001, 13:12
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Newbie Groupe : Members Messages : 24 Inscrit : 09 févr. 01 Lieu : Genève - CH Membre no 264 |
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ven. 9 déc. 2005, 08:34
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 Newbie Groupe : Members Messages : 21 Inscrit : 09 déc. 05 Lieu : Encinitas - US Membre no 73,654 |
Wow, no replies for years??
anyway.. now there is Tiger and there is core audio. Music souds best on Mac as always. All the good audio software is available on Mac. It's USB now, the days of the old school MIDI have ended. Stay with Macs!! -------------------- BPM
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 sam. 10 déc. 2005, 05:02
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 Moderator In Chief (MIC) Groupe : Editors Messages : 15,189 Inscrit : 23 déc. 01 Lieu : Paris - FR Membre no 2,758 |
ushhhh never awaken threads that sleep deep
 And there's been talks about every other versions along the way
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