Do Not Throw Your Serial Midi Interface, Stealth port working with 2 MTP II under Options

[cyril]

Do not throw your serial Midi interfaces.
I have the Alpha version of the MIDI driver for the Stealth port

You want to test it write to : Blanc.cyril@wanadoo.fr indicating your Midi config

Your obligatio will be to report of your test.

Already test with 2 MTI II Motu works !

[jsegel]

YEAH! not only did cyril email me the driver+setup, but i had emailed geethree and asked about possibilities and they sent it immediately too.
i just tested and succeeded:
opcode studio4 midi i/o to stealth serial port midi setup in OS 10.2.3.
midi in and out in XMAX/MSP - working!
yeah!
that's a company that's on top of it.

[deleted]

This is a very good news, indeed! Thanks Ciryl for your communication works, and thanks to geethree for their adapters & drivers. Is there no timing issues, or any drawbacks at all?

BTW, can someone post the specs & prices of those adapters (say, 2 ports)? Thanks in advance.

Bye.

[cyril]

Already tested wyth

- 1 Unitor 8
- 2 MIDI Time Piece
- 1 MAC Midiman
- 1 MIDI Time Piece AV
- 1 J L Cooper synclink serial
- 1 MidiExpress+ MT4
- 2 MIDI Time Piece II
- 1 Studio 4

[Levon River]

- 1 MidiExpress+ MT4

What is that? Anybody know?

Also, I'm wondering exactly what "tested" and "works" means. For example, IIRC, MOTU provided software in OS 9.x for setting up and controlling the many routing configurations available on their bigger serial MIDI devices like the TimePieces and MIDI XPress, saving those set-ups and recalling them. If MOTU isn't supporting any of that under OS X at all, are you limited to their hardware-switchable routing pre-sets? Anybody with one of these devices that can tell how this is all working in actual use?

I would also like to get my setup working in 10.2.3 using a Studio 5LX. I received a beta plug-in from geethree, however it doesn't seem to be working for me. Am I doing something wrong? Audio MIDI setup sees all 15 INs and OUTs, but when I launch Logic 5.5, no MIDI IN or OUT activity to and from my gear.

[I]Someone please help me!

Regards,
Paul J. Garay
pgaray@shaw.ca

[lepetitmartien]

(damn!)

[danml69]

What software is being used during the testing? Cubase? Logic?

I'm trying my testing with Logic Audio 5.5 for OS X.

[danml69]

I was wondering what software Cyril was using when he successfully tested all those serial midi devices.

[cyril]

I did not do any test yet as I have one leg in plaster and I cannot go down to my studio until at least the 7th --- 2 more days !!!!!

Test where made by other user !

I am dying to test it with my configuration : 1 Studio 4 + 1 MTP I + 1 AMT 8


Beta version of the driver is now availlable on :
Geethree's Webpage

Paul you are the second person reporting problems with the 5 LX
you should contact directly Geethree support for help. support@geethree.com



[QUOTE]- 1 MidiExpress+ MT4

MT4 is an Emagic USB, Midi expres is a serial , this show coexistence of USB and Serial midi interfaces

Best

Cyril

[LABob]

Make that Three Studio 5LX users beached and marooned..

I downloaded and installed the Stealth Midi Plugin, ran the Stealth Midi Set-up program, and ran Audio Midi Setup, receiving the same result as Paul.

When Audio Midi Setup scans the midi gear it sees only the interface made by the Stealth plugin and nothing downstream from there, including the Studio 5LX.

I emailed Geethree support and they responded within a couple hours, saying basically:

"Gee. Three other Studio 5LX users got theirs working. We'll give 'em a call and ask 'em how they did it and we'll GET BACK TO YOU..."

Anybody heard anything positive?

LABob
Walltime@earthlink.net

[lepetitmartien]

Yesterday Oune in the French forums did it with a 10.2.3, logic 5.5 gold, griffin gport drivers, audiowerk and MOTU serial micro express.

And it works… he's still testing (seems to cool to be true)

[trixette]

excuse my ignorance, but what is the stealth port?

[lepetitmartien]

Stealth GeeThree and Griffin Gport are two devices which when plugged in place of the internal modem of USB mac towers (so from BW to now) give the user a serial port (remember the modem and printer ports years ago?).

Stealth and Griffin are both testing a software which make it work on OSX first, and allow the use of serial midi interfaces from 10.2.3 on.

IT IS great

[LABob]

Buried in between the lines in plain sight as usual:

The Givens:

1. OMS is history. DOES NOT WORK in OSX.
2. OMS is Necessary to Studio 5 Setup.
3. The above are at odds with each other!

YMMV -- I had one guy, Paul, tell me he ditched an older .kext file as the root user and it lit right up. Well maybe for him that was it.

For me, it was closer to home. I don't know if the following is the path of choice, but it got me to the pie so I'm gonna scarf now and draw the map later.

I plugged the Studio 5 back into the old Mac's printer port and verified it worked. OK. Plugged a Sportster modem in the new Stealth Serial port on the G4 and verified THAT works. OK. Put the Studio 5 into the Stealth Port and, Bamp! -- it's dead. Check cables. Reinstall Stealth stuff. Bamp. (Also swapped it for the gPort drivers & setup program after noticing the install read-mes are word for word identical on Stealth and gPort. Don't look now, kiddies, but they are the exact same stuff with 2 different names. Bamp.) Reinstalled 10.2.3. Bamp. Pulled out hair. Didn't help. I got squat. Nada. Zippo.

Intuition drains; ideas peter out, all-nighters come up empty; seeing 15 red and 15 green lights in my sleep, all dead. I got Cubase SX meters dancing on my imported VST 4.0 song but after 4 days, still no midi.

In desperation, I grab the Studio 5 manual. I finally internalize P.129 and realize I have to hook the Studio 5 up to OMS to set up the compatibility mode and then GET IT OUTTA THERE BEFORE OMS GRABS CONTROL OF IT AGAIN.

Like I said, this may not be the straight and narrow, but it's the only thing that WORKED out of 100 that I tried:

1. Hook up Studio 5 to old Mac.
2. Open Studio Patches Editor
3. Create empty 'sequencer' Patch.
4. Save and make current Patch
5. Open OMS Setup.
6. Create new Setup.
7. Pull Studio 5 Menu down to COMPATIBILITY MODE.
8. Set Speed to FAST
9. Check the EMULATE MIDI TIMEPIECE box.
10. Click CLEAR ALL.
11. Click SAVE.

NOW! Stop doing anything in OMS and TURN OFF the Studio 5. When you saved the Compatibility Setup you also installed it IN the Studio 5. Since you have been having as much trouble with it as I have, there is obviously SOMETHING in OMS that screws up the Compatibility Setup again before we make it OUTTA THERE! My theory is that turning off the Studio 5 here stops OMS from messing it up again. This theory is only a few notches north of conjecture, buit hey, it did work, didn't it?

Next, unplug the serial cable from the old port, put it in the G4 Stealth port, turn the Studio 5 back on, run the Stealth Midi Setup and go poke around in Audio Midi Setup like you have a hundred times already. You know the drill. Match up the "Fast" and the "Ports" (15x15) and they will look the same and the Studio 5 will still look dead. Stretch the zoomie-looking cables between devices if you want -- they are only for your enjoyment as they make no actual connections. You have created in Compatibility mode, a Studio 5 with the mind of a child -- no patches, numbers, names, etc. Core Midi and SX will do those jobs from now on. SX is where you set up the real Devices and Ports. Honest.

When you start SX and the verbose startup stuff in the bottom of the SX banner hits MIDI DEVICE MANAGER -- WHAM!! you should see green dead lights flash briefly on the Studio 5 if you are autoloading a project with any midi ports assigned.

Or just Load a project and play something quick before it changes its mind....

TADA!!

Dunno yet about reliability, etc, cause I ran off to write this, but hey, it's finally working and I hope this helps somebody.

Don't you just hate it when people nose around and whine but they never come back to share their workarounds?

Like I said, YMMV. My search through back copies of the OMS manual, scores of pages of errors, workarounds, all supposedly fixed now, convinced me of only one thing: There's a hundred ways the Studio 5LX and Stealth Port can partner up to FAIL in OSX, and there's only one way it will work.....

If you Googled in here, sorry -- this is essentially the same post you saw at Cubase Mac. After four days of agonizing, I'd put it on the front page of the New York Times if I could...

RW

Ce message a été modifié par LABob - dim. 16 févr. 2003, 07:58.

[pepe73]

ahve anyone found way of using Midi Time Piece AV serial using Keyspan USB Adapter

thanks

[fishhead]

Should'nt be anything to figure out. Install software, plug the Keyspan adapter into the USB port, connect to the Timepiece. As long as you follow the install instructions that should be all there is to it.