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gonechan
posté sam. 15 oct. 2005, 17:45
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hi nick


then what i would recommend you is,a strat(it can be either a Fender or it's economic line called Squire) or a 335(again could be a real Gibson or it's economic line ,Epiphone.335 are hollow body guitars,BB King stylee) ,a small valve amp and you'll be ready to go.i bought myself a guitar amp last month ,a small 15w Orange amp ,and i saw many amps on that range that are very cheap and good sounding.if you want something that you can carry around anywhere ,i recommend you a Pignose amp ,they're pretty small and powerfull with a great tone as well!you should also look into some kind of distortion/sustain pedal to use as a booster on the amp, this will make that bluesy sound happen,but this is not really necessary if the amp delivers a nice overdrive.
i discard the Les Paul models for blues,because i see it more as a jazz guitar .
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posté dim. 16 oct. 2005, 09:44
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Blues? Strat with a Fender amp, Super Reverbs are the nicest ones, Bassman amps are great too, Twin if you want a brighter tone....


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Luke Davison
posté dim. 16 oct. 2005, 10:32
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Get yerself an Ibanez Tube Screamer, too....all the great blues guys use one....SRV, etc....


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posté dim. 16 oct. 2005, 10:35
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Trust me...i've played professionally on the blues circuit for the past 20 years....don't get technical, get tone-wise....


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posté dim. 16 oct. 2005, 16:40
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I agree with the Fender or Squier suggestion. I'd also suggest that you read some of the very excellent posts on the Fender Forum. www.fenderforum.com.
I recently got back into guitar after 35 years away, I bought a Squier 51. great starteer giutar at a good price.
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nickdaum
posté dim. 16 oct. 2005, 19:56
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Thanks for all the inputs, folks!

Actually, not being a professional, I'm often puzzled by the jargon used here. So far for me an amp is an electronic device that needs speakers. I looked the Ibanez "amps" and all of them are combos. I already own a complete, excellent sound system plugged on my sound interface. It's not meant for stage performance but the complete system delivers a perfect sound. I don't plan to play on stage anyway. I leave that to you, folks ;-) It'll be a hobby for me.

My plan was to plug the guitar directly on the FW Solo 1/4" input. When I travel I'll plug a headset.

I concur with Luke about not being too technical.

I looked at the Quier and Epiphone catalogs. Most are out of my budget. Moreover I saw Yamahas with better specs for the same price (3 mikes including 2 double loop, for example).
What about a Yam or an Ibanez? The entry level models with good specs are around $250-300.

Remember I’m not a professional and I plan to play alone ;-)

Nick
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posté dim. 16 oct. 2005, 21:10
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hi again nick!

well ,actually for that kind of money you should be able to get a second hand strat,sorry for insisting ,but those are blues guitars ,is fair to say that yamaha and ibanez guitars are also good,but for my point of view ,they don't compare with a strat ,unless you're a metal player(which is not the case of course).
and the amp,mmm,we could say that you can skip that bit ,but as i see it ,the amp is one of the most important pieces when it comes to play the guitar,it shouldn't be considered as a mere amplifier with a speaker ,it should be considered a musical instrument as well.for 300$ you definitely can get a Squire strat and a small 10w amp ,second hand of course.
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posté dim. 16 oct. 2005, 21:25
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IMO learning on a electric is much easier and much more enjoyable

There are alot of lower priced electrics out there(depends on your price point)

Some of the PRS SE models are dropping in price ($400 range
and you can get single coil models or humbuckers (I prefer humbuckers to avoid 60 cycle hum)

Fender's Squire range offers alot options (telecaster custom or deluxe for under $200.00) same with the stratocasters(Squire)

Epiphone (owned bu Gibson) has a wide variety of guitar, alot are
Korean or Indonesian built copies of Gibson's for very low prices.

Dean Guitars has some models for $100-150

Yamaha Pacifica has been rated the best under $200.00 guitar for

5 years straight, its Strat like 3 single coil pick-ups this one
may be a good choice without quality concerns

Jay Turser has some real low priced enty level models

you can check quailty user reviews on Harmony-Central.com

For a nice amp a Vox Pathfinder is a real nice amp for about $100-
$125.00 I have one and its 15 watts, it can also drive a external
4x12 cab!

Some of Line 6 new amps are in the under $300 range and offer
different amp models, effects , cool stuff

Hope this helps and Good Luck!
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nickdaum
posté mer. 19 oct. 2005, 03:13
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Hi

My message has got strange chars at each inverted commas and is difficult to read. I hope this version will be more readable (same text).

Hi folks

Thanks for keeping giving me your inputs.

Since I have no elements to make my own opinion Ifm very interested in whatever you say. It helps a lot. I was completely clueless, now Ifm a little less clueless ;-)
I did the same before I bought my Firewire Solo. With my Mac and my sound system it makes a perfect match. The help of savvy people is invaluable :-)

Letfs say I want the same kind sound as Howlinf Wolffs, Hookerfs, Luther Johnsonfs (Luther "Georgia Boy (snake)"Johnson, Ifm nuts about eLonesome in my bedroomf record) or Otis Rushfs:
* should I forget about Yamaha or Ibanez?
* is there only Fender or Gibson and their subsidiaries that sound that way?
* is an amp necessary? what an amp is supposed to add by the way? remember I have an M-Audio Firewire Solo sound interface to plug the guitar and the mike on.

Ifve been looking at overdrives on BEHRINGERfs site. I didnft check other vendors yet. What do you think about stuff like such products, which are dirt cheap?

This one is supposed to be dedicated to the blues:
Blues Overdrive BO100
http://www.behringer.com/BO100/index.cfm?lang=ENG
but what are the Level and Tone controls supposed to add to the ones existing on all guitars? Is it the Gain that makes the difference as well as the pedal?

This other one is the same price with different controls and apparently a different purpose:
Overdrive/Distortion OD100
http://www.behringer.com/OD100/index.cfm?lang=ENG


What about something a little more expensive but with lots of options:
Modeling Amp/Multi-Effects Processor with Integrated Expression Pedal X V-AMP
http://www.behringer.com/X-V-AMP/index.cfm?lang=ENG

According to the userfs manual:
the X V-AMP features 100 user-rewritable presets, each consisting of 7 ingredients:

1. amp simulation
2. speaker simulation
3. pre-amp effects (noise gate, compressor, Wah Wah)
4. adjustable presence and bass EQs,
5. modulation effect (e.g. phaser, chorus etc.)
6. delay effect
7. reverb

Isnft it all what a blues player is supposed to have? ;-) I donft get the meaning of every item but Ifll read the manual more closely ;-)

The first two can fit in your pocket, the last in a bag. Isnft it the kind of stuff that would do the job instead of a bulky amp including a speaker?
They would fit into my already existing chain system, between the guitar and the interface, while combos would add another branch.

Just another stupid question: wouldnft that make sound any guitar the way you like (provided it has the correct quality)?
Yet another one: what about double coil mikes Vs. simple coil? and 2 Vs. 3 mikes?

TIA

Nick
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posté mer. 19 oct. 2005, 05:18
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Mhmm nickdaum you just won the award of the most original encoding error. Never seen this one before.

Double check your encoding in your navigator. It should be on ISO-8859-1. Some users have issues on the forum and we can't track the reason, so if you can post in the Macmusic forum help section about this (computer, OS, browser, encoding) i'd be very interested. wink.gif


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