Oms Confusion Aarrghh!!!, OMS + Reason + Cubase=poop Options

[gorillacake]

Hello all,
O.k., I'm using an imac g4 with reason and cubase for software and an audiosport quattro with a crappy casio for a midi controller. The thing is, I had everything working great until I switched my casio for another casio. Well actually that worked too, but when I went to switch back to the original casio, no more midi control. I've created new OMS studio setups and I reinstalled the quattro drivers, and the midi still won't work. When I try and test the studio in OMS, there's no spooky voice saying midi recieved. Bummer. I've made sure reason is using the quattro for midi but still nothing. Plus, now I can't rewire reason and cubase together. What am I doing wrong. Maybe it's my midi cables, who knows, although they should be fine. Should I just reinstall everything? Help!

[lepetitmartien]

Lesson one: never switch the crappy Casio

Haven't you had troubles before? If I remember well… The basic attitude is to get rid of OMS and the quattro drivers first. Then reinstall beginning with OMS…

OMS is lunatic, but you know that already.

[gorillacake]

Well first let me say thank you for always replying to my computer cries for help. Much appreciated.
O.K., so I must uninstall OMS, but how do I do this?I tried before but I just erased my studio setup, not OMS. As I said before I'm new to macs but learning tons from forums like this.

[lepetitmartien]

"In the OMS night, nobody can hear you scream"

Anyway you have to create a NEW OMS set up so trash is a solution More seriously, just make a basic search on OMS using Sherlock it should give you:

a control panel

an extension

an opcode folder with the OMS apps in

There's an OMS folder with things in it… save what is not coming from opcode (trash the rest with the eventual quattro stuff you'll reinstall anyway, if there's something for the crappy casio kill it on sight)

now press the delete button

reinstall oms

then the quattro stuff

[pscott]

I am so new to this that I don't even have a mac yet (soon...very soon). Could someone please tell me what OMS is, other than something that has been abbreviated too often. I am interested in working with MIDI and apparently it is required- it seems to be a source of frustration.

[lepetitmartien]

It is, because it's an old, buggy, unupdated for more than 3 years now piece of software used up to OS 9 for implementing midi on macs (htere's also MOTU freemidi for example). All that because of the failure of Opcode and its buy out by Gibson.

hpoefully we have something top notch for audio and midi running in OS X (MidiCore and AudioCore, part of it is from the original developer of OMS who's working for Apple for 3 years now).

Now, OMS is old, buggy, temperamental… but it happens to work most of the time. most, that is

Now I'd like that someone knowledgeable in Logic come and explain how to set up the basic in midi in Logic whithout OMS. It'd be community service

[rickenbacker]

OMS = Open Music System. If you can wait a few months, you'll never have to bother with it again. Because OS X doesn't need to use OMS (it has Midi capability built right into the operating system) as soon as the first sequencers start appearing for OS X, you can forget about it altogether. Soon, so soon...

[iMellotron]

It is, because it's an old, buggy, unupdated for more than 3 years now piece of software used up to OS 9 for implementing midi on macs (htere's also MOTU freemidi for example). All that because of the failure of Opcode and its buy out by Gibson.

hpoefully we have something top notch for audio and midi running in OS X (MidiCore and AudioCore, part of it is from the original developer of OMS who's working for Apple for 3 years now).

Now, OMS is old, buggy, temperamental…  but it happens to work most of the time. most, that is

Now I'd like that someone knowledgeable in Logic come and explain how to set up the basic in midi in Logic whithout OMS. It'd be community service  :laugh:  :laugh:

OMS buggy? I've never heard that one before. To quote the OMS author from his OMS petition:

"Q: Is OMS compatible with Mac OS 9.x?

A: Yes, to the best of our knowledge, and contrary to some persistent rumor-mongering. All of the significant problems we're aware of have been due to bugs in other developers' OMS drivers."

I've never heard anyone call OMS itself buggy before. The way developers choose to support OMS may themselves have bugs, but I believe OMS to be solid as a rock!

Cheers...

[lepetitmartien]

Does 68k code counts for a major bug ?

OMS has always been touchy, (I don't care if it's his fault or not) the fact that we can use it still under OS 9 means that the code was cleanly made 'major changes have happned inside the mac OS and it still works) but it's age is an issue. I've never had troubles lasting more than a reinstall or a few work out with but some here have. and bad ones.

And standard critics upon are still valid (timing, interface)

And why also others (MOTU, Emagic) have developped their own system… only for marketing fun ? not only)

For info OMS was OPCODE before OPEN, but was never open source. unfortunately.