Presonus Firebox Reviews?, Anyone actually use this yet? |
dim. 6 févr. 2005, 21:41
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wondering if anyone has actually used the new PreSonus FireBox? Its been available in Europe for a month now... and just became available here in the US. I am wondering if any has tried this unit out... I am strongly considering gettting one. I would like to hear any reviews of this new interface.
any opinions? power consumption in the feild? etc. thanx -- Ian -------------------- ~ Archival Audio ~
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thats cool.
Ok, so here;s the story. Getting a bit frustrated with the firebox for the 1st time. Trying to use it to perform with in MaxMSP. Seems like patches that the internal card can handle the firebox keeps popping and clicking on. I have to go from 128 samples buffer and signal vector size, to 256for both for it to work smoothly. and even then there is a click every few minutes (not bad, but there all the same). I keep getting these CPU spikes. activity monitor shows kernel_task spikes in CPU up to like 95% every once in a while while the firebox is plugged in. None when its not. Whats up? i heard something about this from someone else. They said Presonus or maybe apple claimed it was normal and should not affect operation. But it does - my pops are usually synced with such spikes, occurring about every 15 sec when at 128 samples buffer. It cant be normal for firewire audio interfaces. I dont like it for normal operation of the computer either (when crunching big files, who wants an unused audio interface hogging CPU? arrrrg I still get pops every once in while when on 256 samps even though MaxMSP reports my CPU usage as down to about 34%!(activity monitor showed much higher, around 60-90% for MaxMSP) My internal card runs with no discernible clicks/pops at up to about 55-60% processor load in Max at 128 samps buffer normally. Its these darn CPU spikes belonging to the system that happen every once in a while with the Firebox plugged in. I tried everything i could think of to turn off, not turn on, restarted several times... So then i tried Logic 6.4 - adding spacedesigners until it choked - i got to i think 5 and logic reported nearly maxed CPU (music have been 90-100%, but there's no numerical display in logic) but the firebox did not click or pop at all, at 128 samples buffer. What the heck? Of course it clicked (choked) when i added the 6th, but the 5th was definitely showing 90-100% usage with no pops. Is there a difference in the way that MaxMSP and Logic access a coreaudio device that makes this disparity in popping/clicking? Or is Logic's CPU meter just wussy? But no... the 6th space designer REALLY choked the machine (unresponsive for about 15 sec) so that could not be it... This is starting to anger me - its like i can only use half the processor power i did before in MaxMSP if i still want decent latency using the Firebox. Would a MOTU or something like that be better? and RME? Cause i could (very reluctantly) i think still return the firebox until the end of the week... I really like it with logic ad stuff, but its not really cutting it in Max right now and I dont know why. Anyone have any ideas? Ce message a été modifié par arvidtp - mer. 22 juin 2005, 06:07. -------------------- -Arvid •• Squish the Squid Productions, Modest Machine
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ArchivalAudio Presonus Firebox Reviews? dim. 6 févr. 2005, 21:41
arvidtp i'd like to know too! dim. 6 févr. 2005, 22:37
lepetitmartien Available one month before in Europe? for the prod... lun. 7 févr. 2005, 01:55
ArchivalAudio Crazy I know! when I sent an email regarding ... lun. 7 févr. 2005, 15:07
charlzz Yes, Guitar Center, Portland Oregon, had 3 Firebox... mar. 8 févr. 2005, 09:19
ArchivalAudio QUOTE (charlzz @ Feb 8 2005, 00:19)Yes, Guita... mar. 8 févr. 2005, 15:06
GitGeezer I'm currently testing one now. Very prelimina... mer. 9 févr. 2005, 08:10
ArchivalAudio GitGeezer thanx for the post that is mixed news I... jeu. 10 févr. 2005, 07:07
GitGeezer Greetings, Ian... I'm in the Northwest US (no... dim. 13 févr. 2005, 09:43
arvidtp I await your review of the box! particularly h... dim. 13 févr. 2005, 21:08
ArchivalAudio Hey Git cool looking forward to more reviews foun ... mar. 15 févr. 2005, 05:18
arvidtp that is probably talking about stuff that actually... mar. 15 févr. 2005, 05:30
khvt Any more reviews on Firebox? Thanks. sam. 19 févr. 2005, 15:46
GitGeezer More Firebox experience: Recording a stereo track... jeu. 24 févr. 2005, 07:49
bbmozee At long last, the missing link I've found. Eve... mar. 1 mars 2005, 18:33
khvt Hi bbmozee. Thanks for your post about the fabulou... mar. 1 mars 2005, 18:39
ArchivalAudio bbmozee hey great to hear such an enthusastic re... mer. 2 mars 2005, 06:40
cookshack Are all of you guys still short on mic pres? Terr... mer. 2 mars 2005, 18:59
bbmozee More on the fab FIREBOX: Smooth and in the groove ... mer. 2 mars 2005, 19:01
arvidtp sounds cool bbmozee but you *can* turn the latenc... mer. 2 mars 2005, 21:18
GitGeezer a little more Firebox experience... I got an emai... jeu. 3 mars 2005, 07:14
beltunabob JD sounds has a price now of $199 on the Terr... jeu. 3 mars 2005, 16:17
bbmozee I must admit that I haven't been able to make ... jeu. 3 mars 2005, 21:31
bbmozee FIREBOX clarification--I can get the MBOX SPDIF ou... ven. 4 mars 2005, 17:14
ullanta Hmmm... what are you trying to do in connecting th... sam. 5 mars 2005, 06:12
arvidtp This is the same setup i would like ideally too. T... sam. 5 mars 2005, 06:31
digimusic is there fire in the box??? i am in amsterdam an... sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:09
bbmozee Details re: Mbox-FireBox SPDIF connection. 1-I... sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:13
ArchivalAudio wow lotsa good info about the box here... sorry I ... sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:51
ullanta How is the clock set up on the Mbox side? sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:53
bbmozee FireBox saga continued. First of all I must mentio... lun. 7 mars 2005, 02:35
bbmozee DAT to FireBox to eMac and Peak a success! Jus... lun. 7 mars 2005, 04:38
GitGeezer Regarding my SPDIF problem... I haven't had t... lun. 7 mars 2005, 07:47
bbmozee My experiences mirror GitGeezer's - only with ... lun. 7 mars 2005, 16:14
GitGeezer Sorry to hear about the Logic 7 problem. I am jus... mar. 8 mars 2005, 05:32
digimusic HI PEOPLE, I RECENTLY ASKED A Q ABOUT THE FIRBOX I... jeu. 10 mars 2005, 19:57
bbmozee FireBox saga finale: I just discovered that the re... ven. 11 mars 2005, 17:49
lepetitmartien Hi all, please, inform the guys at Presonus and le... sam. 12 mars 2005, 03:30
ArchivalAudio lepetitmartien thanx! for the suggestion I had... sam. 12 mars 2005, 19:37
GitGeezer For bbmozee... Which logs specifically did you di... mar. 15 mars 2005, 07:38
bbmozee Git: Check out Apple Menu>About This Mac>Mor... mar. 15 mars 2005, 17:03
vickbabu I was considering the firebox, aside from the fact... mer. 16 mars 2005, 23:11
ArchivalAudio hey Awhile Back I did contact PreSonus they (Rick)... mar. 5 avril 2005, 00:15
twits celso ArchivalAudio--where are you trying to get the ... mer. 6 avril 2005, 17:11
khvt I bought mine from Sweetwater. So far I like it - ... jeu. 7 avril 2005, 13:27
twits celso Mine sometimes does that too, with same solution (... jeu. 7 avril 2005, 15:06
ArchivalAudio twits celso hey thanx UnfortnatelyI live about an ... ven. 8 avril 2005, 02:27
twits celso I've never even gotten around to opening the C... ven. 8 avril 2005, 15:14
zorbeix QUOTE (bbmozee @ Mar 11 2005, 16:49)FireBox s... mer. 20 avril 2005, 02:10
ArchivalAudio I just got my Firebox yesterday... so far only one... mer. 20 avril 2005, 05:13
zorbeix QUOTE (ArchivalAudio @ Apr 20 2005, 04:13)I j... mer. 20 avril 2005, 05:21
ArchivalAudio Olivier, I'm running aG4 ibook 1.2Ghz /1.25GB... jeu. 21 avril 2005, 00:15
meta22 I've had a firebox for 2 weeks and it's be... jeu. 21 avril 2005, 06:40
ArchivalAudio meta22 cool tell me how you got it workin' d... jeu. 21 avril 2005, 06:52
ArchivalAudio ok... so I upgraded to OS 10.3.9...... mistake... mer. 27 avril 2005, 14:18
zorbeix It's all supposed to be a java problem for whi... mer. 27 avril 2005, 16:15
Jonasji So ArchivalAudio or meta22 what is your verdic of ... mer. 27 avril 2005, 16:53
meta22 Well so far it sounds great--less cracking and pop... mer. 27 avril 2005, 17:10
twits celso I've had one for about 6 weeks or so. The soun... mer. 27 avril 2005, 17:18
Jubei Hey guys....so I just picked up a Firebox this pas... mer. 27 avril 2005, 21:04
Jonasji Well, I guess every box has it problems. I had and... mer. 27 avril 2005, 22:22
Jubei I don't think i have done enough recording to ... mer. 27 avril 2005, 22:49
bobmusic QUOTE (GitGeezer @ Mar 8 2005, 04:32)I haven... ven. 29 avril 2005, 22:51
ArchivalAudio BOBmusic I made the same mistake in upgraging to 1... sam. 30 avril 2005, 22:09
munkifunki (((PLEASE HELP))) i get constant pops and clicks ... dim. 1 mai 2005, 05:52
Jubei Hey Munkfunki.....I hear you. I now have been usin... dim. 1 mai 2005, 14:27
bobmusic QUOTE (ArchivalAudio @ Apr 30 2005, 21:09)the... dim. 1 mai 2005, 15:12
chappy I'm going to guess that this is a clocking pro... lun. 2 mai 2005, 14:14
Dreadman718 I purchased a Firebox two weeks ago and I can... lun. 2 mai 2005, 21:40
bobmusic QUOTE (Dreadman718 @ May 2 2005, 20:40)Now wh... lun. 2 mai 2005, 22:26
iDraw it was great to find this particular forum about t... mar. 10 mai 2005, 00:04
khvt Hi - I've been reading this post since its inc... mer. 11 mai 2005, 01:50
vickbabu I just recieved mine and experienced the same ... mer. 25 mai 2005, 13:03
arvidtp Yep - Just ordered mine. I'll share my experie... mer. 25 mai 2005, 13:39
ArchivalAudio soa quick reply here I had many problems wioth the... jeu. 26 mai 2005, 01:33
arvidtp Hi - just got my 'box today! I like it. I... mer. 1 juin 2005, 01:36
arvidtp Firebox - DAY 2 Well, today I did some real work ... jeu. 2 juin 2005, 06:31
entfred Hi, I just ordered a Mac Mini with extra memory, ... jeu. 2 juin 2005, 14:23
arvidtp hey - sounds cool entfred. 1. it should! the ... jeu. 2 juin 2005, 20:11
hahaworld Firebox Rox! I have officially left ProTools ... ven. 3 juin 2005, 16:08
entfred What is the quality of Logic compared to your prev... ven. 3 juin 2005, 17:08
arvidtp Me too! goodbye pro tools with Mbox! Man,... ven. 3 juin 2005, 22:37
SadPandas I have been using the firebox for about a week now... jeu. 9 juin 2005, 08:42
ArchivalAudio Hi my life has gotten busy... My unit is or seems ... dim. 12 juin 2005, 19:27
arvidtp Thats a cool idea to power the firebox with a batt... lun. 13 juin 2005, 04:42
ArchivalAudio arvidtp thanx for you indepth info...always good p... jeu. 16 juin 2005, 07:17
entfred I tried changing the "optimization" sett... mer. 22 juin 2005, 12:23
twits celso The "right click" settings for the Fireb... mer. 22 juin 2005, 14:52
khvt Twits, How do you then change the software mixer... mer. 22 juin 2005, 14:57
arvidtp the mixer does not seem to be the problem with me.... mer. 22 juin 2005, 16:55
tbirdwilson Greets I've just tried out my Firebox for the... dim. 10 juil. 2005, 14:58
arvidtp OK tbird, you're in luck - here's some mor... dim. 10 juil. 2005, 17:19
primeclub i know this is a mac forum, but does anybody check... jeu. 28 juil. 2005, 14:41
vsmith1 I've noticed that the Firebox changes the proc... ven. 29 juil. 2005, 10:54
entfred Further Experiences with Mac Mini and Presonus Fir... ven. 29 juil. 2005, 13:51
brendan QUOTE Next thing for me to try is to use Cubase, s... ven. 29 juil. 2005, 16:08
vsmith1 QUOTE (primeclub @ Jul 28 2005, 13:41)i know ... ven. 19 août 2005, 21:15
arvidtp try using jack or soundflower (both free) to get t... sam. 20 août 2005, 00:26
vsmith1 QUOTE (vsmith1 @ Aug 19 2005, 20:15)Yes I... dim. 28 août 2005, 20:44
arvidtp i'd like to know too! dim. 6 févr. 2005, 22:37
lepetitmartien Available one month before in Europe? for the prod... lun. 7 févr. 2005, 01:55
ArchivalAudio Crazy I know! when I sent an email regarding ... lun. 7 févr. 2005, 15:07
charlzz Yes, Guitar Center, Portland Oregon, had 3 Firebox... mar. 8 févr. 2005, 09:19
ArchivalAudio QUOTE (charlzz @ Feb 8 2005, 00:19)Yes, Guita... mar. 8 févr. 2005, 15:06
GitGeezer I'm currently testing one now. Very prelimina... mer. 9 févr. 2005, 08:10
ArchivalAudio GitGeezer thanx for the post that is mixed news I... jeu. 10 févr. 2005, 07:07
GitGeezer Greetings, Ian... I'm in the Northwest US (no... dim. 13 févr. 2005, 09:43
arvidtp I await your review of the box! particularly h... dim. 13 févr. 2005, 21:08
ArchivalAudio Hey Git cool looking forward to more reviews foun ... mar. 15 févr. 2005, 05:18
arvidtp that is probably talking about stuff that actually... mar. 15 févr. 2005, 05:30
khvt Any more reviews on Firebox? Thanks. sam. 19 févr. 2005, 15:46
GitGeezer More Firebox experience: Recording a stereo track... jeu. 24 févr. 2005, 07:49
bbmozee At long last, the missing link I've found. Eve... mar. 1 mars 2005, 18:33
khvt Hi bbmozee. Thanks for your post about the fabulou... mar. 1 mars 2005, 18:39
ArchivalAudio bbmozee hey great to hear such an enthusastic re... mer. 2 mars 2005, 06:40
cookshack Are all of you guys still short on mic pres? Terr... mer. 2 mars 2005, 18:59
bbmozee More on the fab FIREBOX: Smooth and in the groove ... mer. 2 mars 2005, 19:01
arvidtp sounds cool bbmozee but you *can* turn the latenc... mer. 2 mars 2005, 21:18
GitGeezer a little more Firebox experience... I got an emai... jeu. 3 mars 2005, 07:14
beltunabob JD sounds has a price now of $199 on the Terr... jeu. 3 mars 2005, 16:17
bbmozee I must admit that I haven't been able to make ... jeu. 3 mars 2005, 21:31
bbmozee FIREBOX clarification--I can get the MBOX SPDIF ou... ven. 4 mars 2005, 17:14
ullanta Hmmm... what are you trying to do in connecting th... sam. 5 mars 2005, 06:12
arvidtp This is the same setup i would like ideally too. T... sam. 5 mars 2005, 06:31
digimusic is there fire in the box??? i am in amsterdam an... sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:09
bbmozee Details re: Mbox-FireBox SPDIF connection. 1-I... sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:13
ArchivalAudio wow lotsa good info about the box here... sorry I ... sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:51
ullanta How is the clock set up on the Mbox side? sam. 5 mars 2005, 21:53
bbmozee FireBox saga continued. First of all I must mentio... lun. 7 mars 2005, 02:35
bbmozee DAT to FireBox to eMac and Peak a success! Jus... lun. 7 mars 2005, 04:38
GitGeezer Regarding my SPDIF problem... I haven't had t... lun. 7 mars 2005, 07:47
bbmozee My experiences mirror GitGeezer's - only with ... lun. 7 mars 2005, 16:14
GitGeezer Sorry to hear about the Logic 7 problem. I am jus... mar. 8 mars 2005, 05:32
digimusic HI PEOPLE, I RECENTLY ASKED A Q ABOUT THE FIRBOX I... jeu. 10 mars 2005, 19:57
bbmozee FireBox saga finale: I just discovered that the re... ven. 11 mars 2005, 17:49
lepetitmartien Hi all, please, inform the guys at Presonus and le... sam. 12 mars 2005, 03:30
ArchivalAudio lepetitmartien thanx! for the suggestion I had... sam. 12 mars 2005, 19:37
GitGeezer For bbmozee... Which logs specifically did you di... mar. 15 mars 2005, 07:38
bbmozee Git: Check out Apple Menu>About This Mac>Mor... mar. 15 mars 2005, 17:03
vickbabu I was considering the firebox, aside from the fact... mer. 16 mars 2005, 23:11
ArchivalAudio hey Awhile Back I did contact PreSonus they (Rick)... mar. 5 avril 2005, 00:15
twits celso ArchivalAudio--where are you trying to get the ... mer. 6 avril 2005, 17:11
khvt I bought mine from Sweetwater. So far I like it - ... jeu. 7 avril 2005, 13:27
twits celso Mine sometimes does that too, with same solution (... jeu. 7 avril 2005, 15:06
ArchivalAudio twits celso hey thanx UnfortnatelyI live about an ... ven. 8 avril 2005, 02:27
twits celso I've never even gotten around to opening the C... ven. 8 avril 2005, 15:14
zorbeix QUOTE (bbmozee @ Mar 11 2005, 16:49)FireBox s... mer. 20 avril 2005, 02:10
ArchivalAudio I just got my Firebox yesterday... so far only one... mer. 20 avril 2005, 05:13
zorbeix QUOTE (ArchivalAudio @ Apr 20 2005, 04:13)I j... mer. 20 avril 2005, 05:21
ArchivalAudio Olivier, I'm running aG4 ibook 1.2Ghz /1.25GB... jeu. 21 avril 2005, 00:15
meta22 I've had a firebox for 2 weeks and it's be... jeu. 21 avril 2005, 06:40
ArchivalAudio meta22 cool tell me how you got it workin' d... jeu. 21 avril 2005, 06:52
ArchivalAudio ok... so I upgraded to OS 10.3.9...... mistake... mer. 27 avril 2005, 14:18
zorbeix It's all supposed to be a java problem for whi... mer. 27 avril 2005, 16:15
Jonasji So ArchivalAudio or meta22 what is your verdic of ... mer. 27 avril 2005, 16:53
meta22 Well so far it sounds great--less cracking and pop... mer. 27 avril 2005, 17:10
twits celso I've had one for about 6 weeks or so. The soun... mer. 27 avril 2005, 17:18
Jubei Hey guys....so I just picked up a Firebox this pas... mer. 27 avril 2005, 21:04
Jonasji Well, I guess every box has it problems. I had and... mer. 27 avril 2005, 22:22
Jubei I don't think i have done enough recording to ... mer. 27 avril 2005, 22:49
bobmusic QUOTE (GitGeezer @ Mar 8 2005, 04:32)I haven... ven. 29 avril 2005, 22:51
ArchivalAudio BOBmusic I made the same mistake in upgraging to 1... sam. 30 avril 2005, 22:09
munkifunki (((PLEASE HELP))) i get constant pops and clicks ... dim. 1 mai 2005, 05:52
Jubei Hey Munkfunki.....I hear you. I now have been usin... dim. 1 mai 2005, 14:27
bobmusic QUOTE (ArchivalAudio @ Apr 30 2005, 21:09)the... dim. 1 mai 2005, 15:12
chappy I'm going to guess that this is a clocking pro... lun. 2 mai 2005, 14:14
Dreadman718 I purchased a Firebox two weeks ago and I can... lun. 2 mai 2005, 21:40
bobmusic QUOTE (Dreadman718 @ May 2 2005, 20:40)Now wh... lun. 2 mai 2005, 22:26
iDraw it was great to find this particular forum about t... mar. 10 mai 2005, 00:04
khvt Hi - I've been reading this post since its inc... mer. 11 mai 2005, 01:50
vickbabu I just recieved mine and experienced the same ... mer. 25 mai 2005, 13:03
arvidtp Yep - Just ordered mine. I'll share my experie... mer. 25 mai 2005, 13:39
ArchivalAudio soa quick reply here I had many problems wioth the... jeu. 26 mai 2005, 01:33
arvidtp Hi - just got my 'box today! I like it. I... mer. 1 juin 2005, 01:36
arvidtp Firebox - DAY 2 Well, today I did some real work ... jeu. 2 juin 2005, 06:31
entfred Hi, I just ordered a Mac Mini with extra memory, ... jeu. 2 juin 2005, 14:23
arvidtp hey - sounds cool entfred. 1. it should! the ... jeu. 2 juin 2005, 20:11
hahaworld Firebox Rox! I have officially left ProTools ... ven. 3 juin 2005, 16:08
entfred What is the quality of Logic compared to your prev... ven. 3 juin 2005, 17:08
arvidtp Me too! goodbye pro tools with Mbox! Man,... ven. 3 juin 2005, 22:37
SadPandas I have been using the firebox for about a week now... jeu. 9 juin 2005, 08:42
ArchivalAudio Hi my life has gotten busy... My unit is or seems ... dim. 12 juin 2005, 19:27
arvidtp Thats a cool idea to power the firebox with a batt... lun. 13 juin 2005, 04:42
ArchivalAudio arvidtp thanx for you indepth info...always good p... jeu. 16 juin 2005, 07:17
entfred I tried changing the "optimization" sett... mer. 22 juin 2005, 12:23
twits celso The "right click" settings for the Fireb... mer. 22 juin 2005, 14:52
khvt Twits, How do you then change the software mixer... mer. 22 juin 2005, 14:57
arvidtp the mixer does not seem to be the problem with me.... mer. 22 juin 2005, 16:55
tbirdwilson Greets I've just tried out my Firebox for the... dim. 10 juil. 2005, 14:58
arvidtp OK tbird, you're in luck - here's some mor... dim. 10 juil. 2005, 17:19
primeclub i know this is a mac forum, but does anybody check... jeu. 28 juil. 2005, 14:41
vsmith1 I've noticed that the Firebox changes the proc... ven. 29 juil. 2005, 10:54
entfred Further Experiences with Mac Mini and Presonus Fir... ven. 29 juil. 2005, 13:51
brendan QUOTE Next thing for me to try is to use Cubase, s... ven. 29 juil. 2005, 16:08
vsmith1 QUOTE (primeclub @ Jul 28 2005, 13:41)i know ... ven. 19 août 2005, 21:15
arvidtp try using jack or soundflower (both free) to get t... sam. 20 août 2005, 00:26
vsmith1 QUOTE (vsmith1 @ Aug 19 2005, 20:15)Yes I... dim. 28 août 2005, 20:44
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