Bss M-250's, SCAM Don't buy them!!! Options

I should point out that on doing research on these from when I was scammed, I did find out that in America, certain individuals had been getting their own back.

Two people claimed to use their girlfriend as a decoy who pretended to be interested in the speakers, then stole the scammers' van.
There was also a report of one person who was actually stabbed by someone they had previously conned.

I think it needs to get some press coverage - just a mention on a national radio station or something would probably be enough. Currently, the only way you hear of it is if you, or someone you know, has already been scammed by it.

And who wants to report it to a newspaper themselves? "Mr <whoever> of <wherever> was tricked into buying 2 speakers he believed to be worth something, from the back of an unmarked transit van".. you just look an even bigger gimp than you were already.

[Steve999]

Has anyone managed to sell on these speakers? How much did you get back? Where did you sell them? I've just been scammed and want rid of them as I didn't really want them in the first place.

[newrigel]

Man I've seen those clowns all the time @ places.. (car washes,covenient stores ) and I alway's thought the stuff these guy's sold was on FIRE! Who in their right mind would buy a speaker without listening to it first? Now, Levis, shirts and such I could see someone buying... but TRANSDUCERS??? Remember the saying... "Caveat Emptor" beware!

[Hellhamster]

These guys were just in Bristol this afternoon (March 11 2004). Just got swindled out of 200 quid by these men. Given accurate discriptions to Avon Police. Glad i had the forethought to take their descriptions and registration number down. I am a poor poor student and now I'm even poorer.
Still glad to know i'm not the only one. So are these speakers any good???

[StevieBoy]

Sorry to be a killjoy (maybe that's not quite what you are) but I can't quite see where the swindle is. These guys say they're selling speakers - and that's what you get. They say they're worth more than the price they're offering - well, they may believe that ('worth' being a very elastic concept).

The worst they may be doing is fiddling tax, it seems to me.

[Hellhamster]

The point is that they trick you. THey dont just 'say' that they're worth more, they have printed up false papers, invoices, articles brochures, even fake ads that show other people selling them on for £1500 or so. They have put a lot of effort into making you believe these speakers are what they say they are, that's the most annoying thing.

[Dsourza]

I bought a pair myself some years ago, 250£
Ultimately, u can almost name ur own price, but because of the fact that they have gone to so much trouble of making all the paperwork seem so authentic, 2 the naked eye, it seems like the deal you`ve been waiting for...
They actually sound somewhat ok, but it has to be at the price not much over 80-100£, at least i think.

They`re also operating here in Denmark, just 2day i was stoppet by 2 guy in a blue van, i was just about to lock my bike outside a netcafe, when a blue van pulled over by my side, some swedish guy stuck his head out and said, "erhm, xcuse me freind" i cut him off and said " so u got got some speakers for me" i didnt know if he was about to drive off or spin around around twice on his seat , never the less i took my time and said "yearh i bought a some a couple of years ago" i talked him down to selling them off 3pairs for a decent price, they would even come a set up a pair in my apartment for me and others to test the sound quality, he even gave me his phone number for me to call him later (how stupid is that ) - i mean hey! - if i knew anyone who needed a pair of speakers then i could help out some of my freinds, and thats would be it...or on the other hand, i could turn them in, but dont see the harm in what theyre doin, i should have know better the last time i bought`em and i can get`em cheap now, no matter what, as somebody said earlier in this forum, dont think u can buy high-end gear for that price out of a freakin van by 2 guys that dont know shit about anything, least of all music-gear...

Just a thought from D-:

[tecnical]

speaker scam now in wale's u.k mate of mine nearly brought 4 but thank's for the internet got back to him in time thank's to your web site

[wolfeye]

So.... These guys seem to appear in Sweden nowadays and one of them speaks swedish in a acceptable manner ( claiming that he is from sweden though, what a joke!!! ). They show their ID's and we get their names too ( both fore and sir names ). As I didn't want to deal with them anyway I just took a quick look at ther ID's and figured out that the "swedish" guy was Peter. They started to pull out the same story as they always do with having a pair of speekers over and blah blah. Me and my friend ( students ) got really intressed as we realized our chance to earn some money here. The guys wanted 8000 kr = 550 pounds for the pair of speekers. My oppinion was 4000 kr = 275 punds for a complete 4.1 system ( 2 main monitors, 2 satelites and one sub bas ). I also started researching these speakers more closely as one of them got really nervous... I started to feel that something was wrong ( it isn't every day you buy something from the back of a van ). All the speakers seemed ok and we agreed to give a final offer for the 4.1 system. They finally agreed 275 pounds for all of them and we took the stuff and got home.

So then we started to figure out the real price of them as we from the beginning realized that they'd been overdoing it a little bit. So then we stumbled upon this site and realized we had been tricked. But hey!!! Why don't we see how they sound...

We plugged these speekers into our amplifier and found out that they actually sound really good. Ok. It isn't worth the price the two guys claimed it to be but I can tell you that I'm satisfied having a 4.1 surround system for 275 pounds or 450 euro. I think I've paid what they are worth, which means that I havn't got tricked in that way but our ideas of selling it further is now another subject to discuss...

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The components in these speakers are probably from china but who cares... Your components in your computer are probably from taiwan...

[scritz]

Hi!
Sadly enough i found this forum to late... I also got swindled... or how you might express it... 2 guys rentvan from germany.... Well be aware that they are widening their terretory... I was foold today i sweden...
But i guess I shouldent complain... 200 euro is´t that bad for that kind of eqipment, its mostley the thought that I got swindled that bothers me...

Be AWARE! These guy are proos.. They even helped me install them in my appartment and let me listen to them... They let me look on the internet for information about Bss without getting coold feet. They even asked me if i could speak german (which i said "yes, alittle but not much") and then they diskussed the prise (200euro) in german, so that i would think that they didnt want me to understand. And offcourse they made me think a was making hell of a deal.

By the way: In Sweden they call the subsystem for: bss, AC-001
Two packages one whit the sub and one with the satalites.

Have anyone else been foold in sweden?

Hoppfully the people that is doing this is being cought soon!

/scritz (sweden)