I'm Getting Reason, Now Logic Pro 7 Or Pro Tools?, Reason, Logic, Pro Tools Options

[MarkMark2005]

I produce house music. I am about to purchase a Power Mac. I am definetely going to buy Propellerhead's Reason software.

I am now trying to decide whether to complement that software with Pro Tools LE 002 or Logic Pro 7? Pro Tools LE 002 vs. Logic Pro? Logic Pro comes with sounds, but I already have plenty of outboard sounds and Reason will provide sounds as well. Pro Tools is industry standard on the other hand and comes with the required hardware, but some say there is better hardware out there, such as Motu or Apogee although I am not familiar with these products.

I would be particularly interested in hearing from producers in the UK, and/or producers who do house or work in other electronic music genres. But ALL opinions are of course welcomed! Incidentally, what is the more popular platform in the UK - Logic or Pro Tools?

Thanks!

Mark
Atlanta, GA.

[beingmf]

first of all, forget about the "people say" factor. why use an apogee converter with reason? if you want something to sound harsh and digital, try to get some advice about the proper equipment. logic is not famous for its sounds but for its approach to arranging/mixing/tweaking. pro tools is just "different", not "better". what does "industry standard" mean? do you want to share your files with BIG studios that mainly record live rock music - and then mix it on their SSL analog desk? I don't think so...
i don't know what kind of house music you are producing, if you are into warm distorted deeper sounds, stay away from reason - if you want the "minimal" electronic sound, go for it!

btw. MOTU sounds shitty and Apogee the contrary, so please try to get more information about the gear you might need...

have fun

[Teeroy]

I beg to differ on the Logic comment. Out of all the DAWS on the market, Logic comes with more plugins and higher quality at that. If you want a ncie review of Logic vs. Cubase vs. Sonar, read this month's Grooves Magazine. The reviewer shares the same opinions I do on Logic plugins.

They can't be beat. Top notch stuff. Check out the new Sculpture! It's amazing!!!

I say do whatever you have to do to get your hands on Logic.

Troy

[Teeroy]

And as the post previous to mine stated, stay away from Pro Tools. It is pretty handicapped in the MIDI dept. It is aimed more at the Pro Audio market (guitar bands).

Troy

[ourmanflinty]

What's so handicapped about midi in Pro Tools?

I heard a whisper that Logic will be losing its environment, anyone else heard this, hasn't lived up to its potential etc etc.

[MarkMark2005]

I do want warm deeper sounds (not techno electronic sounds), but I don't really expect Reason to provide that; I am considering Reason mainly because of the ease of use, I would like to use it as the center of my creative process to sequence and control outboard sounds. Logic or Pro Tools would then be used for mixing/tweaking and adding additional effects; so the quality of the effects in Pro Tools LE vs. Logic Pro 7 is an important comparison I need to make.

Industry standard is not of primary concern. But, although I do not expect to share my files with large studios, I would like to have the capability of bringing those files into a big studio in the event that I am lucky enough to land a big project that perhaps requires big studio vocals or whatever. Notably, Pro Tools LE already comes with hardware (albeit limited to 32 tracks), whereas Logic Pro does not.

[B3 Basher]

You talk of

'using Reason at the centre of your creative process'.

Reason is not the software to

'control outboard sounds'

.

Think of it this way, Logic would be your brain for this aspect of your set-up and Reason would be it's funky little frontal lobe, with it's clever Malstrom/cv/gate/matrix noodlings.

Logic is an imposing beast that needs a lot of homework to get up and running, but after a few weeks of frustration, you will climb mountains with it. Reason, for all it's intuitive interface and quick results will lead into a cul-de-sac for your potential creativity.

So start thinking of Reason as your paper and pencil and Logic/ProTools as your water colours and canvas.

My advice - Choose either but get yourself educated (A weeks course at your nearest Music Tech college) prior to buying it. It'll save you months in frustration and will not stifle your creativity.