Another Rewire Question..., Logic Pro & Reason 2.5 Options

[don says mac]

i don't even know if it's possible, but i want to be able to record loops from reason onto logic... lets say, if i use redrum and plug in a drum pattern, is there a way to record it to logic without exporting it as a midi file?? the same question for using the subtractor & the matrix... so far i've just been able to use rewire by playing all the notes on my keyboard, but sometimes i'd rather use redrum and/or the matrix...

i guess i may as well ask if the same type of recording is possible with ultrabeat?

thanks.