Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!! |
dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist
what i need to know is basicaly this;; what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- |
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dim. 14 juil. 2002, 02:34
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I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools and Logic because they are really designed for certain different reasons. Logic is great because it is designed for the composer, the Matrix editor is far superior than sequencing in ProTools or any other sequencer I've used (keep in mind this is simply an opinion, please no bashing I know others prefer other sequencers) so I use logic to do all of my sequencing. ProTools is great for editing and it's editing tools are great (again an opinion) the quality is also great when it comes to the TDM/RTAS/AS plugins. I have run into many neat but cheaper VST plugins available. My technique is using Logic to sequence the entire track. I export each track as one long audio file. Import each track into ProTools and EQ it, flange it, and edit it for sound effects. I'll also use ProTools for vocals. So IMHO I think that NO SEQUENCER is perfect and I think they work the best when used in conjunction with eachother. So concerning you're question as to what is better. It's all a matter of opinion. Many like Performer, many like Logic. Wars have been started reguarding which is the best, the best is really what you're personal preference is. Try out demos of each of the major sequencers and see which one you "bond with" if it's ProTools you have no other option than to get Digidesign hardware. I also am blown away that som have said that the Digidesign hardware is poor and expensive. I disagree (opinion yet again) I have found the inputs and outputs in the Digidesign hardware to be of the highest quality and thats the reason for the high cost therefor the cost is now justified. Though I do agree that for the beginning user, or hobbiest, the high end TDM systems are probably out of your league unless your family is really well off. If sub $1000 is ok for you to spend on one card by all means get the Digi001 the ability of ProTools and 2 focusrite XLR/1/4" inputs and 16 simultaneous inputs and outputs is really great (Guitar Center has them for 799 FYI) If you end up with a preference of Logic or Performer get the other hardware like the MOTU 828, or an M-Audio card (by Midiman) and use Logic or Performer. You can always decide to upgrade to ProTools MIX systems or HD systems if you so choose and use Logic and Performer on that hardware as well. So my two cents is simply see what you like, everyone is different, works different and thats good. Find out what YOU like. Sorry for going on, hope this helps somewhat.
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midnight Protools--vs--???? dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
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Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! lun. 26 août 2002, 23:48
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damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 05:33
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Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 08:01
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Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... dim. 7 juil. 2002, 23:41
damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... mar. 9 juil. 2002, 23:53
Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... jeu. 11 juil. 2002, 06:34
damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 04:44
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 09:33
damann for your information mr t i work in all the big st... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 17:22
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22)you'll... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 12:35
Soif please, keep cool guys! peace... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 15:00
damann sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 19:26
Mr.T Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 22:32
Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... dim. 11 août 2002, 21:58
lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ... lun. 12 août 2002, 02:25
Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... lun. 12 août 2002, 11:17
miss kiki teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ... lun. 12 août 2002, 12:06
Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... lun. 12 août 2002, 16:51
Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... ven. 16 août 2002, 22:34
Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... sam. 17 août 2002, 12:30
Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... dim. 18 août 2002, 10:16
Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... dim. 18 août 2002, 17:00
III777III VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr... lun. 19 août 2002, 06:16
Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... lun. 19 août 2002, 09:19
rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... mar. 20 août 2002, 11:23
Presto "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly... mar. 20 août 2002, 13:28
buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... mer. 21 août 2002, 02:50
Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... mer. 21 août 2002, 08:59
Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... mer. 21 août 2002, 20:33
damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... dim. 25 août 2002, 03:23
burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... lun. 26 août 2002, 21:12
Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! lun. 26 août 2002, 23:48
Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... mar. 27 août 2002, 02:48
beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... mer. 25 sept. 2002, 11:30
damann hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 01:55
rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 10:42
damann a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 14:39
rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... ven. 27 sept. 2002, 11:57
damann realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 01:53
rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 11:25
urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 22:53
Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 22:01
Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 23:25
holli right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O... lun. 11 nov. 2002, 05:27
Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... mer. 13 nov. 2002, 08:55
holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 04:53
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 05:33
Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 19:27
holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 03:25
droltam well this should heat things up...... I work in a ... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 06:06
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 02:09
Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 11:55
Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 16:13
holli i can never really understand why people get obses... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 18:22
lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 19:42
holli hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 19:07
Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 23:29
droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 02:10
lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 03:49
Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 08:01
Teiwaz In response to droltam's quote: "Protool... mar. 19 nov. 2002, 02:59
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