Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!! |
dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist
what i need to know is basicaly this;; what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- |
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sam. 13 juil. 2002, 12:35
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QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22) you'll also find me on the digi website(by my real name) talking about how i used sound replacer on steve gadd's drums while working on 1 of the 5 albums i've made with eric clapton! ;) chill out man, i'm allowed to have an opinion and it just happens to be based on nearly 20 years of solid PRO experience. maybe next time you want to make assumptions about people in these forums, you should check out their profile... Dear Daman, I don't need or want to check anyone's profile in order to know how good they are...I usually don't check someone's resume to know if he's good or not ... In fact, I don't give a damn about resume... You've made an album with E.Clapton?... Good for you!... Am I gonna bend over and lick your boots for that?... I don't think so... The fact that you've worked with Clapton doesn't mean a thing to me... It all depends on what you've done for the guy...and even if you should have produced/recorded and mixed his whole album, Clapton's records are, in my very small/ humble/ insignificant opinion, not what I would really called "creative stuffs"...far from it (with all due respect to the great musician HE is). On the" Logic side", as I said, I was only speaking about the situation here in France (I know Logic is currently used in England). You're saying: "transfering work from Logic to tools couldn't be easier"... I'm not a Logic user, but I'm also a DP user, and I supposed you'll still get some troubles while exporting-importing from Logic to PT (due to each soft's"philosophy")->ex.: loops made in DP=>once imported in PT, it's bye-bye loops,start all over again... Anyway... the saddest thing in all that is that I'm not even a huge PT fan and that I do agree on many points with you ("Garbage in, garbage out", Digi's gear too expensive and outdated on many points), I just happen to be a user convinced that, eventhough Digidesign has big big progress to make as far as its general policy's concerned, the soft is still pretty good and can be used for the exact same purposes as the other softs: post prod°, music, creative SFX... Thus, I'm just kinda surprised by your definitive assumptions about PT. I've read your same kind of replies in many different posts (the ones were you say you have to be named Clapton to be able to buy PT... Funny now that I know you've worked for him...) and thought they sounded kinda subjective and exaggerated... That's all. It's not the tools, it's mostly the man behind the tools...as long as the tools are good enough...which is the case with PT. I'm done...as far as this subject's concerned. -------------------- |
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midnight Protools--vs--???? dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... dim. 7 juil. 2002, 23:41
damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... mar. 9 juil. 2002, 23:53
Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... jeu. 11 juil. 2002, 06:34
damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 04:44
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 09:33
damann for your information mr t i work in all the big st... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 17:22
Soif please, keep cool guys! peace... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 15:00
CeJeRo I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 02:34
damann sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 19:26
Mr.T Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 22:32
Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... dim. 11 août 2002, 21:58
lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ... lun. 12 août 2002, 02:25
Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... lun. 12 août 2002, 11:17
miss kiki teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ... lun. 12 août 2002, 12:06
Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... lun. 12 août 2002, 16:51
Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... ven. 16 août 2002, 22:34
Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... sam. 17 août 2002, 12:30
Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... dim. 18 août 2002, 10:16
Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... dim. 18 août 2002, 17:00
III777III VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr... lun. 19 août 2002, 06:16
Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... lun. 19 août 2002, 09:19
rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... mar. 20 août 2002, 11:23
Presto "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly... mar. 20 août 2002, 13:28
buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... mer. 21 août 2002, 02:50
Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... mer. 21 août 2002, 08:59
Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... mer. 21 août 2002, 20:33
damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... dim. 25 août 2002, 03:23
burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... lun. 26 août 2002, 21:12
Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! lun. 26 août 2002, 23:48
Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... mar. 27 août 2002, 02:48
beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... mer. 25 sept. 2002, 11:30
damann hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 01:55
rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 10:42
damann a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 14:39
rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... ven. 27 sept. 2002, 11:57
damann realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 01:53
rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 11:25
urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 22:53
Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 22:01
Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 23:25
holli right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O... lun. 11 nov. 2002, 05:27
Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... mer. 13 nov. 2002, 08:55
holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 04:53
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 05:33
Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 19:27
holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 03:25
droltam well this should heat things up...... I work in a ... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 06:06
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 02:09
Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 11:55
Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 16:13
holli i can never really understand why people get obses... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 18:22
lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 19:42
holli hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 19:07
Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 23:29
droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 02:10
lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 03:49
Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 08:01
Teiwaz In response to droltam's quote: "Protool... mar. 19 nov. 2002, 02:59
Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... dim. 7 juil. 2002, 23:41
damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... mar. 9 juil. 2002, 23:53
Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... jeu. 11 juil. 2002, 06:34
damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 04:44
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 09:33
damann for your information mr t i work in all the big st... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 17:22
Soif please, keep cool guys! peace... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 15:00
CeJeRo I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 02:34
damann sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 19:26
Mr.T Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 22:32
Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... dim. 11 août 2002, 21:58
lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ... lun. 12 août 2002, 02:25
Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... lun. 12 août 2002, 11:17
miss kiki teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ... lun. 12 août 2002, 12:06
Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... lun. 12 août 2002, 16:51
Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... ven. 16 août 2002, 22:34
Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... sam. 17 août 2002, 12:30
Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... dim. 18 août 2002, 10:16
Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... dim. 18 août 2002, 17:00
III777III VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr... lun. 19 août 2002, 06:16
Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... lun. 19 août 2002, 09:19
rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... mar. 20 août 2002, 11:23
Presto "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly... mar. 20 août 2002, 13:28
buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... mer. 21 août 2002, 02:50
Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... mer. 21 août 2002, 08:59
Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... mer. 21 août 2002, 20:33
damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... dim. 25 août 2002, 03:23
burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... lun. 26 août 2002, 21:12
Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! lun. 26 août 2002, 23:48
Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... mar. 27 août 2002, 02:48
beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... mer. 25 sept. 2002, 11:30
damann hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 01:55
rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 10:42
damann a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 14:39
rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... ven. 27 sept. 2002, 11:57
damann realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 01:53
rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 11:25
urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 22:53
Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 22:01
Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 23:25
holli right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O... lun. 11 nov. 2002, 05:27
Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... mer. 13 nov. 2002, 08:55
holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 04:53
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 05:33
Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 19:27
holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 03:25
droltam well this should heat things up...... I work in a ... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 06:06
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 02:09
Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 11:55
Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 16:13
holli i can never really understand why people get obses... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 18:22
lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 19:42
holli hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 19:07
Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 23:29
droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 02:10
lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 03:49
Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 08:01
Teiwaz In response to droltam's quote: "Protool... mar. 19 nov. 2002, 02:59
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