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Salut à tous,
Je voudrais connaître l'avis des Macmusiciens sur la politique de DIGIDESIGN. Avec la sortie d'ACCEL et d'un nouveau format de plugs, nous sommes en droit de nous demander est-ce que DIGI ne chercherait pas à nous mettre sur la paille ?... Je possède 1 Mix3. Alors que je me posais la question de savoir si je pourrais en raclant le fonds de ma tire-lire acheter un HD2 qu'il nous sorte ACCEL. Alors selon vous réelle avancée technologique ou intox commerciale ?.... Que pensez-vous également des possibiltés du natif (qualité du son et des plugs, gain de puissance) par rapport aux DSP de DIGI ?...J'ai l'impression que dans un délai assez court, MOTU ou EMAGIC seraient capable de nous sortir un PT en natif avec ces fameux G5. Espérant un vrai débat sur l'avenir de nos softs je vous dis à bientôt.[B] |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Groupe : Members Messages : 222 Inscrit : 19 févr. 03 Lieu : Bagnolet - FR Membre no 12,661 ![]() |
QUOTE Eh ouais, les gars... on est tous pareil.. ceux qu'on été elevé au pro tools, ils y restent... et c'est aussi ça la force de digidesign... C'est un peu comme une drogue douce... t'en a pas besoin physique, mais qu'est ce que c'est mieux aevc! Même si j'admets pouvoir faire plus de choses avec PT TDM qu'avec un système natif, le jour où une autre marque fera aussi bien mais moins cher, je ne me ferai pas prier pour y passer. QUOTE Je tiens à signaler que les plugins doivent être du nouveau type Accel pour fonctionner sur cette carte donc il va aussi falloir upgrader vos plugins HD ( qui ne marchent que sur la HD Core). C'est un truc de fous quand même. Tu t'imagines le mec qui aurait il y a peu racler le fond de sa tire-lire et bouffer des patates tous les jours pour s'acheter un HD + tout un ensemble de plugs...... Pétage de plombs....Les updates chez DIGI çà coûte la peau du c.. QUOTE Et puis un dual G5 avec DP ou Logic peut mettre beaucoup plus de plug qu'un systeme HD 2 !! voir HD 3. (j'ai vu des sessions énormes avec Logic, DP et ProTools RTAS sur ces machines) donc si je le pouvais je revendrai mes systemes HD pour acheter du Motu et utiliser DP ou Logic sur un dual G5 !!!!! Moins cher, plus puissant et surtout avoir la liberté d'utiliser n'importe quel logiciel sur n'importe qu'elle interface (sauf Digi). Phildao, ton expérience du HD m'intéresse. Penses-tu que l'on peut réellement faire mieux avec 1 G5, Logic ou DP et quelques bons plugs ?.... Moi avant de passer sur PT TDM, j'ai fait une expérience. J'ai chargé 1 session audio avec 40 pistes ce qui est la moyenne pour une compo aujourd'hui. L'ordi est 1 G4 2x450, les cartes audios, DELTA 66 et DIGI 001, les softs DP3, Cubase 5 et Logic 4 ou 5. (Mon test date de 2 ans à peu près) Je fais un mix en utilisant en moyenne 2 plugs (EQ et Comp) par tranches et 4 Aux d'effets (2 Réverb, 1 delay + 1 autre truc utile). Je mets la track de Grosse caisse en solo et regarde mes vu-mètres. Au fur et à mesure je lache les éléments de batteries, la basse, puis les synthés, puis les FX. Constatation: le niveau à presque peu changé. Pourquoi?... Parce que les systèmes natifs peuvent supporter un nombre important de pistes audios dans 1 session, mais 1 ordi Mac ou PC, du fait de leur architecture audio actuelle, n'est pas capable de décoder convenablement plus de 8 pistes audios en Dynamique et stabilité au niveau fréquence. En gros on a l'impression que le niveau est bridé.Les fréquences des EQ bougent plus l'on active de pistes audios. Les algorythmes utilisés pour écrire les plugs natifs y sont aussi pour quelques choses. Chez DIGI, les plugs RTAS équivalent à du VST. Les TDM (selon les plugs) sont plus stables et plus efficaces vu que les algorythmes sont beaucoup plus puissants.Les DSP font le reste. C'est pour cela en autres qu'ils y a autant de PT à travers le monde. Leurs systèmes sont stables. PT est également très intuitif. Il y a encore une barrière entres les systèmes natifs et les systèmes à base de DSP, tout comme il y encore une grosse barrière, encore plus énorme, selon moi, entres ces derniers et les systèmes Hardware (Console+Préamp de bonne qualité). C'est un peu la réalité du marché de la musique actuellement. Comme je vous l'ai dit, si un jour un autre développeur fait aussi bien, je fonce. |
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