Live 2.01 Impressions, or "ableton listens, users rejoice" Options

[filarion]

Paid my 80 Euros to upgrade to Live 2.0 a couple of days ago. Awesome new features like different timestretch engines (acoustic guitar tracks actually can be used in Live now), ability to turn those engines off for individual samples, better automatization, etc.

Performance looks to be the same like 1.5 - which means that it still isn't Altivec optimized, and faster on PCs, but the Ableton guys are Mac users themselves and are promising to add this (requiring a bunch of rewrites) for the next upgrade. Anyways, especially with software like Live the performance is nowhere near as important as creativity.

[charlieb]

Live + Reason is a great team for electronic music, but I personally do not like Reason's user interface. with live 2.0 it's become easier to sample/record live using punch in/out, but if you want a serious recording/sequencing solution Logic is the way to go. Live is great fun and my favourite piece of software right now, but despite it being easily accessible I believe that you need a certain experience and discipline to use it like a tool and not a toy (but hey, it - like Reason - is a fun toy). so, my advice for seriously exploring the groovy world digital audio would be the Big Box bundle...

Hi Filaron,
A little confusing for me to understand your meaning. Please clarify:
You say that Live and Reason together is great. This is clear.
You say you don't like Reason's interface. Do you have another synth that you prefer?
You say that Logic is the "serious" way to go, which I get.
Then you say that Live requires a "certain experience and discipline". In this regard I thought that this statement would be even more so for Logic, and thus I got a bit confused.

And with the Logic Big Box Bundle, would I still want to get Reason?

Thanks for your help.

cb