Midi Gliss..please Help! |
dim. 18 oct. 2009, 23:49
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Im trying to produce a realistic gliss (portamento, or glide) between two notes or two intervals of a solo string sampled instrument.
I want to be able to specify the starting and ending notes or intervals, and have them seen, sound, and show up as such, in a notation program, and in the sequencers notation. Any SPECIFIC ideas how to do this? Any help will be GRATEFULLY appreciated! Thanks Bob PS: the ways Ive seen online are the following: 1) ****This method requires that your MIDI device supports standard “Registered Parameter Messages” (RPMs), which is common but not universal. 1. Set controllers RPN (100 for MSB and 101 for LSB) to 0. 2. Set data entry (controller 6(MSB) and 38(LSB)) to the number of semitones and 128ths of a semitone that you need. For example, setting controller 6 to 12 will allow you to have 12 semitones (1 octave) as the maximum range up and down. The default range is 2 semitones usually 3. Now, at the places where glissando or portamento is required, create curves in pitch bend (NOT a controller!). You should take into account the range you set above. E.g. a curve from pitch bend 0 to 4096 will be a glissando from the original note to 6 semitones above (augmented fourth); a curve from 0 to -1365 will be a sliding from the original note to 2 semitones below--provided that you set data entry to 12. If you set data entry to 6, however, the same pitch bends will give you half the effect (i.e. 3 semitones above and 1 semitone below, respectively). 4. Be sure to set pitch bend back to 0 after the glissando passage is done (it is not reset by controller 121, since it's not a controller). --The problems I've had with the above is that you cant specify BOTH intervals, as one is sounded by a pitch bend event, and I cant get more that 4 semitones pitch bend, even though CC#6 is set to 12 ============ 2) Portamento *** This control change is not supported by all MIDI devices Portamento is a smooth “glide” from one note to another (rather like a glissando played on a trombone). 1) Set CC#5 to 0–127, which controls the length of time taken to perform the portamento (0 is fastest, 127 is slowest), 2( Set CC#84 to 0–127 which determines the distance of the portamento (values below 60 start below the note, values above 60 start above the note; the precise interval depends on the MIDI device). So you must first “set up” the portamento effect with a CC#5 message, and then attach the CC#84 message to the note on which the portamento occurs. ---The problems Ive had with the above is that it simply does nothing, so it must not be supported, in my equipment. Again, Any help will be GRATEFULLY appreciated! |
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ven. 20 nov. 2009, 06:40
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his method requires that your MIDI device supports standard “Registered Parameter Messages”
(RPMs), which is common but not universal. 1. Set controllers RPN (100 for MSB and 101 for LSB) to 0. 2. Set data entry (controller 6(MSB) and 38(LSB)) to the number of semitones and 128ths of a semitone that you need. For example, setting controller 6 to 12 will allow you to have 12 semitones (1 octave) as the maximum range up and down. testking 642-901 The default range is 2 semitones usually 3. Now, at the places where glissando or portamento is required, create curves in pitch bend (NOT a controller!). You should take into account the range you set above. E.g. testking 642-812 a curve from pitch bend 0 to 4096 will be a glissando from the original note to 6 semitones above (augmented fourth); a curve from 0 to -1365 will be a sliding from the original note to 2 semitones below--provided that you set data entry to 12. If you set data entry to 6, however, the same pitch bends will give you half the effect (i.e. 3 semitones above and 1 semitone below, respectively). 4. Be sure to set pitch bend back to 0 after the glissando passage is done (it is not reset by controller 121, testking N10-004 since it's not a controller). --The problems I've had with the above is that you cant specify BOTH intervals, as one is sounded by a pitch bend event, and I cant get more that 4 semitones pitch bend, even though CC#6 is set to 12 |
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ven. 20 nov. 2009, 09:03
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HI emerson2003--
Thanks so much for replying-- this is the EXACT way Ive done it, and if you read thru this topic, you'll see I've posted this very same method in this thread, in previous posts. Thanks again for your help:) Bob |
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ven. 20 nov. 2009, 19:26
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this is the EXACT way Ive done it, and if you read thru this topic, you'll see I've posted this very same method in this thread, in previous posts. This was spam of some sort (copy paste with links inserted in), emerson2003 is about to be lazerized. Thanks Houstonmusic for the alert, you rock.
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highlander2 Midi Gliss..please Help! dim. 18 oct. 2009, 23:49
houstonmusic This one's a holy grail. While any composer w... lun. 19 oct. 2009, 16:33
highlander2 Thanks for replying--and for your thoughts:) mar. 20 oct. 2009, 03:59
kayj_prod It seems to me that you just need to know how to s... mar. 20 oct. 2009, 07:34
highlander2 QUOTE (kayj_prod @ Tue 20 Oct 2009, 08:34... mar. 20 oct. 2009, 13:11
tweedmusic Hi Bob , Which solo sampled string instrument are ... mar. 20 oct. 2009, 07:55
kayj_prod Ah, apologies if I was patronising! One of my ... mer. 21 oct. 2009, 06:52
highlander2 QUOTE (kayj_prod @ Wed 21 Oct 2009, 07:52... mer. 21 oct. 2009, 14:08
houstonmusic This one's a holy grail. While any composer w... lun. 19 oct. 2009, 16:33
highlander2 Thanks for replying--and for your thoughts:) mar. 20 oct. 2009, 03:59
kayj_prod It seems to me that you just need to know how to s... mar. 20 oct. 2009, 07:34
highlander2 QUOTE (kayj_prod @ Tue 20 Oct 2009, 08:34... mar. 20 oct. 2009, 13:11
tweedmusic Hi Bob , Which solo sampled string instrument are ... mar. 20 oct. 2009, 07:55
kayj_prod Ah, apologies if I was patronising! One of my ... mer. 21 oct. 2009, 06:52
highlander2 QUOTE (kayj_prod @ Wed 21 Oct 2009, 07:52... mer. 21 oct. 2009, 14:08
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