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Bonjour,
Je suis enseignant en musique et mon établissement est prêt à investir dans un portable mac pour que je puisse faire de la M.A.O. Reste la question du budget. Pensez vous qu'un MacBook soit suffisant pour faire tourner LogicPro ? La différence de prix avec un MacBook Pro étant conséquente, quel investissement est le plus rentable ? Y a t il une réelle différence de performance entre les 2 pour une utilisation musicale ? Sachant que je vise un macbook 2,16Ghz/2Go/120Go ou un mbpro 15,4" 2,2Ghz/2Go/120Go Merci pour votre aide ! |
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hello
mais le mb pro peut s'averer tres indispensable dans un futur proche en mao a cause de l'express card non négligeable pour un eventuel rajout de uad x pander.non? moi j'hesite entre un mbp ou macpro,car je peut avoir besoin d'une solution portable mais j'ai peur que le premier niveau proc. ne me suffise pas a l'avenir! ![]() -------------------- Mac pro 2.8 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 4Go Ram - Osx 10.8.2 - Logic pro 9.1.8 - Motu ultralite & un peu de hardware.
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hello mais le mb pro peut s'averer tres indispensable dans un futur proche en mao a cause de l'express card non négligeable pour un eventuel rajout de uad x pander.non? moi j'hesite entre un mbp ou macpro,car je peut avoir besoin d'une solution portable mais j'ai peur que le premier niveau proc. ne me suffise pas a l'avenir! ![]() Si tu achètes un portable pour y mettre des cartes, achète plutôt un Mac Pro ;-) Parce que c'est toujours un pis aller, les cartes dans un portable J'ai essayé Magma + ProTools, j'ai vite oublié... la connectique, la complexité de la config.. Les instru virtuels prennent de la mémoire vive et demandent pas mal d'autres ressources dont mémoire cache, et video vu la quantité de fenêtre que tu auras d'ouverte ( la mémoire vidéo viens se servir sur la mémoire vive (ram) sur le MacBook .) A moins que tu ais besoin de 4 Go de ram pour recreer un orchestre symphonique avec des sampleurs et 256 voies de polyphonie, les 3Go de ram que permet le MB seront largement suffisant. Pour la ram vidéo là on atteint le phantasme, jamais l'ouverture d'une fenêtre ou l'interface graphique d'un plug n'a bouffé de la ram video, celle-ci ne sert que pour la 3D en open GL (et plus particulièrement pour la compression/decompression temps réel des textures) donc la carte graphique du MB blanc est plus que suffisante car en MAO tu ne sollicitera quasiment jamais sa vram. Le FW800 n'est vraiment utile que pour les carte son en FW800 , il doit en exister 2 sur le marché (1 RME et peut être 1 Apogee), pour le reste le FW400 sera très puissant. D'ailleurs le FW800 sur les cartes sons n'est justifiable que si tu enregistre en m^me temps plus de 16 entrées analogiques en 24/96. Quant au chaînage des péripheriques, empiler 3 disques externes sur une carte son n'est jamais conseillé...donc FW800 utile pour les tres gros débit de donnés surtout en vigueur en video et en post prod professionnelle, et éventuellement pour l'enregistrement live de grosses formations avec beaucoup de micro et en 24/96. Enfin il n'y a aucune raison pour que Logic tourne drastiquement mieux sur un MBP que sur MB (dailleurs des gens sur ce forums on testé les deux bécanes), la seule raison viendrait d'un manque de ram car les 1Go par défaut du MB sont un peu juste (a partir 2Go et t'es peinard). Donc utiliser un MB uniquement pour du secrétariat c'est vraiment dommage. Merci Karlos de rappeler ces évidences ! Pour ceux qui en douteraient malgré tout, vous pouvez entendre ce que je fais avec un macbook 2 Go ici: http://myspace.com/khalisonline Tout y a été programmé, enregistré et mixé sur le macbook avec des plugins natifs Apres tout les fils sur Macmusic qui en parle il doit falloir le dire en chinois pour que certains comprennent : les procs (Cpu) des MB et de MB pro sont quasit égaux niveaux perf (les chipsets des cartes mère sont identiques), aller pour chipoter il y a entre 0,04 et 0,4 Ghz de difference selon les modèles....autant dire rien qui ne soit sensible à l'usage. Ensuite si pour des raisons x ou y t'as vraiment besoin d'un truc spécifique au MB Pro alors faut pas hésiter, sinon c'est inutile de claquer quasit le double de fric, même pour l'écran.... cela revient largement moins cher d'ajouter un second ecran plat au MB et t'as encore plus de confort de travail avec le bi-ecran. Maintenant dire que l'express card c'est l'avenir de la MAO...Les UAD sont tres bien mais les solutions sur DSP font justement de plus en plus partie du passé de la MAO d'autant plus que la puissance des CPU double tous les 18 mois selon la loi de Moore. Actuellement un MB blanc suffit pour faire tourner pas mal de plugs en natif quasit aussi bon (Urs, Waves, Sonalksis, Massenburg etc...), et le gros de l'offre des fabricants est en firewire 400, même pour le haut de gamme. Le MB Pro c'est surtout utile pour la video, ou bien si tu veux y coller un gros Protool HD sur chassis Magma. Oui la seule limitation que j'ai trouvé au MacBook à ce jour, c'est qu'on ne peut pas installer FinalCut Studio dessus en raison de sa carte vidéo.... Mais pour ce qui est de l'écran, je confirme aussi: j'ai un 17 pouce externe Samsung à 200 euros et en terme de confort, je suis au top... et le macbook et beaucoup plus portable que le MacBookPro.... en utilisant une Traveler Motu, j'ai une station simple stable et aussi puissante qu'un G5 Bipro 2x2,3 gHz que j'avais avant... mais ça je l'ai déjà dit plein de fois ici.. -------------------- |
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les cartes dans un portable
J'ai essayé Magma + ProTools, j'ai vite oublié... la connectique, la complexité de la config.. mais là c en express card et ça fonctionne direct ! ![]() et il me faudra peut etre a l'avenir une solution portable je ne veux pas avoir a revendre un macpro ou m'endetter pour changer de config par apres! ![]() Ce message a été modifié par sectiond - mer. 24 oct. 2007, 16:37. -------------------- Mac pro 2.8 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 4Go Ram - Osx 10.8.2 - Logic pro 9.1.8 - Motu ultralite & un peu de hardware.
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