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> Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!!
posté dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist

what i need to know is basicaly this;;

what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- blink.gif
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posté dim. 17 nov. 2002, 19:07
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hey, angry.gif

a. yes I did start another thread concerning uad gear, forward thinking gear chat, and recording saxes as I hopefully found a shared interest with Presto (please tell me more dude smile.gif ) If anyone has got all this out of their system, see you in the UAD thread for some enlightened futurology.

I was talking about saxes as a comparison Digi vs. Selmer, two companies that continue to sell gear based on past reputations who now need to pull their fingers out. Well, not that I care that much..biggrin.gif

b."You are not your gear" Why are people taking criticisms of kit personally?

I thought freedom of speech and the right to express an opinion was important? Yes, it's not right to poke children with sticks but aren't I allowed to poke my 001 with a big stick! This is humor and I am refering to the equipment, not the owner. If "it" stands up to criticism, it's propbably very solid.

If hearing someone having a pop at your kit troubles you, I fear it may not be any great sentimentality or sympathetic anthropomorphism, but the knowledge that your hard earned dosh is sat in a companies bank account who don't give a s**t about you.

I have never read a single personal criticism to another member, nor would I want to, this is not the same as a vigorous deabte on the ethics of people who want our dosh. 'I've sold 1000 of these babies' is not justification enough to add virtue to a product. Is it wise to listen to the advice of a salesman who spends all day selling stuff to make a living, or a producer/musician who spends all day pushing the kit to it's limits?

c. Please read the MANY posts to this forum and others where I have tried to offer advice, as a previous experienced 001 owner, and extolled both it's virtues as a complete project studio solution for the newly initiated to mac music, and it's pifalls with lack of consistant compatiblity, customer support into the future and indeed design foresight in many cases.
Let's be really honest about it's place in the market and stop pretending to friends/collegues that if you have an 001 you have a protools rig. Has anyone heard the noise on those unbalanced outputs..geeeezz! smile.gif It's an outmoded idea anyway.

luv Holli x ...tag!
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- midnight   Protools--vs--????   dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
- - Mr.T   You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo...   dim. 7 juil. 2002, 23:41
- - damann   in this game you're as good as your expertise...   mar. 9 juil. 2002, 23:53
- - Eric Seaberg   I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ...   jeu. 11 juil. 2002, 06:34
- - damann   my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ...   ven. 12 juil. 2002, 04:44
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you...   ven. 12 juil. 2002, 09:33
- - damann   for your information mr t i work in all the big st...   ven. 12 juil. 2002, 17:22
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22)you'll...   sam. 13 juil. 2002, 12:35
- - Soif   please, keep cool guys! peace...   sam. 13 juil. 2002, 15:00
- - CeJeRo   I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools...   dim. 14 juil. 2002, 02:34
- - damann   sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard...   dim. 14 juil. 2002, 19:26
- - Mr.T   Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this...   dim. 14 juil. 2002, 22:32
- - Presto   So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an...   dim. 11 août 2002, 21:58
- - lepetitmartien   uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ...   lun. 12 août 2002, 02:25
- - Presto   Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo...   lun. 12 août 2002, 11:17
- - miss kiki   teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ...   lun. 12 août 2002, 12:06
- - Mac1   To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ...   lun. 12 août 2002, 16:51
- - Presto   Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai...   ven. 16 août 2002, 22:34
- - Presto   I don't understand why there have been so few ...   sam. 17 août 2002, 12:30
- - Mr.T   QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can...   dim. 18 août 2002, 10:16
- - Presto   I don't have much experience of tape sound qua...   dim. 18 août 2002, 17:00
- - III777III   VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr...   lun. 19 août 2002, 06:16
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol...   lun. 19 août 2002, 09:19
- - rickenbacker   I don't think it matters what gear you're ...   mar. 20 août 2002, 11:23
- - Presto   "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly...   mar. 20 août 2002, 13:28
- - buryya   To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm...   mer. 21 août 2002, 02:50
- - Mr.T   The dead horse is coming alive...good points here....   mer. 21 août 2002, 08:59
- - Synthetic   I personally... I think you can record an excellen...   mer. 21 août 2002, 20:33
- - damann   didn't i say all of this in the first place? ...   dim. 25 août 2002, 03:23
- - burns   ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!...   lun. 26 août 2002, 21:12
- - Mr.T   Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!!   lun. 26 août 2002, 23:48
- - Yukulele   QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister...   mar. 27 août 2002, 02:48
- - beezkneez   hey i read that sting is recording right now using...   mer. 25 sept. 2002, 11:30
- - damann   hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h...   jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 01:55
- - rickenbacker   On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox...   jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 10:42
- - damann   a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th...   jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 14:39
- - rickenbacker   Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei...   ven. 27 sept. 2002, 11:57
- - damann   realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid...   sam. 28 sept. 2002, 01:53
- - rickenbacker   "the only reason to be making music with osx ...   sam. 28 sept. 2002, 11:25
- - urbanmatador   > "the only reason to be making music with...   sam. 28 sept. 2002, 22:53
- - Teiwaz   anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v...   sam. 2 nov. 2002, 22:01
- - Teiwaz   "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin...   sam. 2 nov. 2002, 23:25
- - holli   right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O...   lun. 11 nov. 2002, 05:27
- - Teiwaz   Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom...   mer. 13 nov. 2002, 08:55
- - holli   Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev...   jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 04:53
- - damann   QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin...   jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 05:33
- - Presto   I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30...   jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 19:27
- - holli   QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr...   ven. 15 nov. 2002, 03:25
- - droltam   well this should heat things up...... I work in a ...   ven. 15 nov. 2002, 06:06
- - damann   QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ...   sam. 16 nov. 2002, 02:09
- - Teiwaz   Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter....   sam. 16 nov. 2002, 11:55
- - Presto   Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we...   sam. 16 nov. 2002, 16:13
- - holli   i can never really understand why people get obses...   sam. 16 nov. 2002, 18:22
- - lepetitmartien   Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ...   sam. 16 nov. 2002, 19:42
- - Teiwaz   Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ...   dim. 17 nov. 2002, 23:29
- - droltam   Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub...   lun. 18 nov. 2002, 02:10
- - lepetitmartien   For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct...   lun. 18 nov. 2002, 03:49
- - Tone   [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ...   lun. 18 nov. 2002, 08:01
- - Teiwaz   In response to droltam's quote: "Protool...   mar. 19 nov. 2002, 02:59


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