Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!! |
dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist
what i need to know is basicaly this;; what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- |
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ven. 15 nov. 2002, 06:06
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well this should heat things up......
I work in a Hi tech Music shop in Sydney and sell everthing from prosumer to Professional systems. Weve sold over 1000 digidesign 001's most of which as a Turnkey Mac system.. Our issues have been literally NIL. If only all products worked this reliably. Yes, cubase running the direct i/o ASIO driver with dual processor macs required the dual processor extension removed, and only now with the dual mirrored macs has there been really any problem at all. The motherboard problem has now been addressed by apple themselves. As for 001 and logic, many of the systems were also supplied with logic as it supports Direct i/o (not needing ASIO) and allows incredibly low latency, Now for a answer…. Both products produce incredible results, with reliability and flexibility. No doubt if you run cubase/logic and a laptop you cant go past the sheer ease of interfacing and cost of a 828. However the Logic/001 mac desktop combination is more flexible as not only does logic support Digidesign hardware with dedicated drivers but also gets you Protools. Now you may think “ do I really need protools?” but I guarantee if you want to treat this system as a tape machine, (acoustic recording) the Protools/001 package is superior is ease of use and sound quality. Just as Digital clock and the AD/DA’s are important, so is the way the software handles its AUDIO. This is where Protools EXELS. The best way to make your OWN decision. First Objective Test At a shop set up a system with Both an 828 and 001 connected. Get a good recording in OMF format. Load it into Logic and switch between Motu Asio and Direct i/o. Second Objective Test This time take the the same audio tracks from the logic song and import them into a Protools session. If the computer has enough ram you will be able to switch between Logic with the 828 and tools with the 001. I hope this helps in you reaching a decision. Remember its your ears. |
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midnight Protools--vs--???? dim. 7 juil. 2002, 18:34
Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... dim. 7 juil. 2002, 23:41
damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... mar. 9 juil. 2002, 23:53
Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... jeu. 11 juil. 2002, 06:34
damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 04:44
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 09:33
damann for your information mr t i work in all the big st... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 17:22
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22)you'll... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 12:35
Soif please, keep cool guys! peace... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 15:00
CeJeRo I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 02:34
damann sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 19:26
Mr.T Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 22:32
Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... dim. 11 août 2002, 21:58
lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ... lun. 12 août 2002, 02:25
Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... lun. 12 août 2002, 11:17
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Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... lun. 12 août 2002, 16:51
Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... ven. 16 août 2002, 22:34
Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... sam. 17 août 2002, 12:30
Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... dim. 18 août 2002, 10:16
Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... dim. 18 août 2002, 17:00
III777III VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr... lun. 19 août 2002, 06:16
Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... lun. 19 août 2002, 09:19
rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... mar. 20 août 2002, 11:23
Presto "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly... mar. 20 août 2002, 13:28
buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... mer. 21 août 2002, 02:50
Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... mer. 21 août 2002, 08:59
Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... mer. 21 août 2002, 20:33
damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... dim. 25 août 2002, 03:23
burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... lun. 26 août 2002, 21:12
Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! lun. 26 août 2002, 23:48
Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... mar. 27 août 2002, 02:48
beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... mer. 25 sept. 2002, 11:30
damann hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 01:55
rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 10:42
damann a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 14:39
rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... ven. 27 sept. 2002, 11:57
damann realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 01:53
rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 11:25
urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 22:53
Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 22:01
Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 23:25
holli right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O... lun. 11 nov. 2002, 05:27
Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... mer. 13 nov. 2002, 08:55
holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 04:53
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 05:33
Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 19:27
holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 03:25
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 02:09
Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 11:55
Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 16:13
holli i can never really understand why people get obses... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 18:22
lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 19:42
holli hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 19:07
Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 23:29
droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 02:10
lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 03:49
Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 08:01
Teiwaz In response to droltam's quote: "Protool... mar. 19 nov. 2002, 02:59
Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... dim. 7 juil. 2002, 23:41
damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... mar. 9 juil. 2002, 23:53
Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... jeu. 11 juil. 2002, 06:34
damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 04:44
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 09:33
damann for your information mr t i work in all the big st... ven. 12 juil. 2002, 17:22
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22)you'll... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 12:35
Soif please, keep cool guys! peace... sam. 13 juil. 2002, 15:00
CeJeRo I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 02:34
damann sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 19:26
Mr.T Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this... dim. 14 juil. 2002, 22:32
Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... dim. 11 août 2002, 21:58
lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ... lun. 12 août 2002, 02:25
Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... lun. 12 août 2002, 11:17
miss kiki teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ... lun. 12 août 2002, 12:06
Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... lun. 12 août 2002, 16:51
Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... ven. 16 août 2002, 22:34
Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... sam. 17 août 2002, 12:30
Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... dim. 18 août 2002, 10:16
Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... dim. 18 août 2002, 17:00
III777III VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr... lun. 19 août 2002, 06:16
Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... lun. 19 août 2002, 09:19
rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... mar. 20 août 2002, 11:23
Presto "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly... mar. 20 août 2002, 13:28
buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... mer. 21 août 2002, 02:50
Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... mer. 21 août 2002, 08:59
Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... mer. 21 août 2002, 20:33
damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... dim. 25 août 2002, 03:23
burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... lun. 26 août 2002, 21:12
Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! lun. 26 août 2002, 23:48
Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... mar. 27 août 2002, 02:48
beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... mer. 25 sept. 2002, 11:30
damann hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 01:55
rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 10:42
damann a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th... jeu. 26 sept. 2002, 14:39
rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... ven. 27 sept. 2002, 11:57
damann realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 01:53
rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 11:25
urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... sam. 28 sept. 2002, 22:53
Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 22:01
Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... sam. 2 nov. 2002, 23:25
holli right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O... lun. 11 nov. 2002, 05:27
Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... mer. 13 nov. 2002, 08:55
holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 04:53
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 05:33
Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... jeu. 14 nov. 2002, 19:27
holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... ven. 15 nov. 2002, 03:25
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 02:09
Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 11:55
Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 16:13
holli i can never really understand why people get obses... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 18:22
lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... sam. 16 nov. 2002, 19:42
holli hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 19:07
Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... dim. 17 nov. 2002, 23:29
droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 02:10
lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 03:49
Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... lun. 18 nov. 2002, 08:01
Teiwaz In response to droltam's quote: "Protool... mar. 19 nov. 2002, 02:59
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