Fed Up With Firewire 410, What's a reliable alternative for a Powerbook? |
mer. 21 mars 2007, 19:12
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The 410 has never really worked. Every driver has some kind of issue. Hanging MIDI notes; Loss of audio monitoring, being just the most recent things. It's well spec'd, but doesn't deliver. They've had long enough to get it right..
I need something with solid dependability, low latency and the usual. I'll move away from Cubase and Garageband and get a new DAW. WHAT'S GOOD? MBox 2 Pro? At least it'd come with a good DAW.. or MOTU UltraLite? and maybe get Logic Express or something?.. |
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jeu. 22 mars 2007, 12:09
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Yeah, I think that Logic would make more sense then, specially as I'll trigger a lot. I've also read it's less processor hungry.
(I suppose I could get an MBox2 Pro, and buy Logic to run with it as an alternative to the included LE, but that's obviously at more expense.) As for the Interface suggestions, RME, Presonus, MOTU... It seems the MOTU UltraLite has the option of many simultaneous audio inputs like big PT, which as a drummer that is attractive (the 410 only allows 2 analogue at any one time). I saw a Tascam one that included a control surface which would be great, but I'm reluctant to try stuff I've not heard a lot about. As a newbie can I ask, can you map those individual inputs to different channels in the DAW, or do they get bussed to a stereo track? If the MOTU is a stable option with good drivers, I think it's MOTU UltraLite & Logic. I've sometimes gone months without being able to record, because of the 410.. Thanks once again lepetitmartien. |
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jeu. 22 mars 2007, 16:36
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Yeah, I think that Logic would make more sense then, specially as I'll trigger a lot. I've also read it's less processor hungry. I can't tell on the CPU side (the known hogs are Cubase and DP) but for now, Logic doesn't seem fully optimised on Intel somehow (there's contradictory reports on stability).(I suppose I could get an MBox2 Pro, and buy Logic to run with it as an alternative to the included LE, but that's obviously at more expense.) Anyway, you'd better try Logic express first, as Logic is a realm in itself not easy to grasp at first. PT is way more easy to learn, note that the "simple" MIDI in PT is enough for a lot of people so it may not make sense to go further. QUOTE As for the Interface suggestions, RME, Presonus, MOTU... I've only heard issues on the smallest tascam (install problems, which get solved), when we don't hear about an interface ether it's not sold a lot, or it's a breeze to operate. to give an extra input on the above companies products:It seems the MOTU UltraLite has the option of many simultaneous audio inputs like big PT, which as a drummer that is attractive (the 410 only allows 2 analogue at any one time). I saw a Tascam one that included a control surface which would be great, but I'm reluctant to try stuff I've not heard a lot about. - MOTU, good and very good converters, best MIDI interfaces around (the only pro competitor btw), usually trouble free operation save some I talk about below. Drivers on Mac are rock solid. - Presonus, very good converters, very nice (transparent) preamps, the driver issues get solved in less than a month (and no problems for some tie in this regard) - RME, Very good converters, solid drivers, but it's sometimes confusing to understand their range (save the firewire interface now) - If you need something better it's Apogee and the like QUOTE As a newbie can I ask, can you map those individual inputs to different channels in the DAW, or do they get bussed to a stereo track? Usually on MOTU, RME, Presonus you can do what you want, the complains on this issues I've heard were mostly on M-audio hardware, on small interfaces with a peculiar use in mind (like recording instrument while singing).QUOTE If the MOTU is a stable option with good drivers, I think it's MOTU UltraLite & Logic. As long as you avoid the 828 family (erratic hardware issues on mk1 and mk2) the rest is a breeze AFAIK. QUOTE I've sometimes gone months without being able to record, because of the 410.. I can't use my 2408 mk2 for know because I can't upgrade the PCI card you know (can't find back my serial number) so I can understand… one day I'll get fed up and move on to something else among one of the 3 contenders.QUOTE Thanks once again lepetitmartien. lpm for short my pleasure -------------------- Our Classifeds • Nos petites annonces • Terms Of Service / Conditions d'Utilisation • Forum Rules / Règles des Forums • MacMusic.Org & SETI@Home
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stimpy Fed Up With Firewire 410 mer. 21 mars 2007, 19:12
lepetitmartien What do you use it for usually and what do you nee... mer. 21 mars 2007, 20:19
stimpy Thanks for the input. I'm demoing song ideas ... mer. 21 mars 2007, 21:22
lepetitmartien Logic express may be a better idea then, more poss... jeu. 22 mars 2007, 01:43
cheekypaul Hold On! I use the 410. It's damn near per... ven. 23 mars 2007, 00:06
t_a_burrows My experiences with the FW410... AUDIO: I use the... ven. 23 mars 2007, 11:19
cheekypaul QUOTE (t_a_burrows @ Fri 23 Mar 2007, 10... ven. 23 mars 2007, 11:30
lepetitmartien Hello Cheekypaul, our friend uses Cubase and Garag... ven. 23 mars 2007, 03:02
cheekypaul QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ ven 23 mar 2007, 02... ven. 23 mars 2007, 09:52
stimpy I thought I'd expand on a couple of the hurdl... ven. 23 mars 2007, 11:58
cheekypaul Interesting. Have you telephoned and spoken to M-... ven. 23 mars 2007, 15:23
MacFeegle Greetings! This may be too late, but I recomm... sam. 24 mars 2007, 06:32
lepetitmartien What do you use it for usually and what do you nee... mer. 21 mars 2007, 20:19
stimpy Thanks for the input. I'm demoing song ideas ... mer. 21 mars 2007, 21:22
lepetitmartien Logic express may be a better idea then, more poss... jeu. 22 mars 2007, 01:43
cheekypaul Hold On! I use the 410. It's damn near per... ven. 23 mars 2007, 00:06
t_a_burrows My experiences with the FW410... AUDIO: I use the... ven. 23 mars 2007, 11:19
cheekypaul QUOTE (t_a_burrows @ Fri 23 Mar 2007, 10... ven. 23 mars 2007, 11:30
lepetitmartien Hello Cheekypaul, our friend uses Cubase and Garag... ven. 23 mars 2007, 03:02
cheekypaul QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ ven 23 mar 2007, 02... ven. 23 mars 2007, 09:52
stimpy I thought I'd expand on a couple of the hurdl... ven. 23 mars 2007, 11:58
cheekypaul Interesting. Have you telephoned and spoken to M-... ven. 23 mars 2007, 15:23
MacFeegle Greetings! This may be too late, but I recomm... sam. 24 mars 2007, 06:32
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