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> Some Logic Problems Can Anyone Help ?, EXTERNAL H.DRIVES - KEYBOARD - CORRUPT AUDIO FILES...STILL !!
PAUL R
posté sam. 8 juil. 2006, 14:24
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I have got a few annoying probs with Logic - I,ve been using it a year and getting on reasonably well - infact finished my first album on Logic !
RUNNING 2.5 G5 Dual with 3 gig ram / Logic 7.2 / MOTU 24 io supports all resoloutions.

Firstly I still get the audio corrupt messages after a year when opening a song damaged audio file message comes up...Also whist actually tracking,occasionally the new audio recording will just play back as white noise !!
I'm set up for 24 bit recording and tried all other different settings,resoloutions and audio formats,still this happens quite randomly..I then have to close and re-open the song THEN Logic 7.2 allows me to repair the audio file - Its not a major problem but HAS ANYONE GOT ANY IDEAS ??? Logic support never could figure it out.....

Secondly - my keyboard ( not contoller the typing one ) will stop working - again randomly - I can't stop or start logic and Zoom etc stops working...again I close it down and it is fine for a while..just an annoyance..ANYONE HELP ?

The latest annoyance is with plug-in samplers - I bought BFD drum unit and more recently EWQL symphonic orchestra.
Knowing how these take processor and hard drive space I bought 3 Lacie extreme drives one for drums one for audio and one for orchestra - I got a pci card for hi speed firewire and off I went.
The BFD won't work in 24 bit mode ( my project is set to record 24 bit - but should'nt affect the drum sampler )
it chokes,stutters and generally is a pain...it will however work in 16 bit mode - that gives less detail and footprint on my system...ok I can get by thats fine..
THEN recently ( a month or so after BFD ) I added ni kompact Strings plug in/library from Eastwest Symphonic and...guess what? Same problem as BFD !! Chokes,white noise..its horrible..but with EWQLO you can't change the sample resoloution - Although I got the Direct From Disk stream running etc.
Yep - I tried support and updates on these units.
Yep - I installed latest updates.
Yep - I contacted support and related forums.
Yep - No change - still chokes and garbage noise in both units...
I have moved the samplers and libraries to different hard drives including the internal one and still no change...
It is my guess that the external hard drives can't 'KEEP UP' with the processing
To be honest - I really don't know..thats why I'm here.

I just wanna make music not spend all my time in forums and support lines.

Logic as a programme is excellent - I'm not tempted to but my old 16 track back ( anyway it went to Jamaica - some reggae band bought it ) but it seems that some external hard drives and 3rd party plug -ins don't interact correctly with Logic !

They say that their products work seamlessly but I wish these manufacturers would own up and tell you that your gonna have problems before you have parted with all the cash and done troubleshooting for them !! They NEVER offer your money back - which in any other product service would be illegal - if it don't work - then money back I say.

Sorry
Thats my rant over with...

BACK TO THE POINT OF THIS

Can any one offer realistic comments and possible soloutions to my hard drive / sampler debarcle - Is there a way of testing the speed of the Lacie / pci firewire units ??
Maybe I expect too much from My G5 Logic set-up..
By the way the samplers were all running inside an otherwise empty song - so what chance would I have of running BFD 24 bit and a string section inside a tune with guitars and vocals ???
Less than NONE says my cynical side.

ha ha.
Thanks for reading
Paul
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PAUL R
posté dim. 9 juil. 2006, 13:37
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Thanks for your compassion !!
So, at least 1 person has read my post...lets hope I get more offers of support and maybe some advice.

Please don't get me wrong - the move from regular PC (or Peice of Cr++p) to Mac/Logic is the best thing I ever did !! Its a breeze (even with these problems) compared to the nightmare of my old C++ase and Windows set up.
Its not me that is a jinx or a bad-vibe-with technology guy,my set-up works for the basic task of producing Punk/Rock tunes.
I think that I possibly expect too much from computer recording.
Doing the rock thing I hear big production in my head that I can,after years of hard-work kinda copy and I am getting better at producing each year - BUT lets face it the major producers of say 'Lost Prophets' , 'Greenday' and 'Foo Fighters' use BIG SSL desks and top notch outboard, I never heared of anyone mixing internally !!

No disrepect to dance but knocking out a tune inside a DAW is acceptable - I've heared some excellent stuff done on a PC and Cubase - but its different for modern rock I think.

Please no one tell me to f+++ off and get a tape machine - cos I love the editing power of my system,boy it is quick when writing

So I am aware of the limitations of computers but I thought by now things would be better.

When I do the basic Rock thing my system is really great - I'm a very happy guy ;-0

I posted my problems with the hope that other users might offer help and support even sympathy thanks mac daddy.
Although a 24 bit drum kit and orchestra is nice to have- it really is'nt the end of my world if it does'nt work....
Its the principle of the whole thing that makes me angry...spending lots of cash and it does'nt even 'get off the ground'.
I can't expect a symphony orchestra to run alongside a rock song and have it mixed ALL inside Logic even my mighty G5 could'nt handle that - but where I stand right now - a couple of cello's and a rock beat have the poor girl choking and spluttering...
Any users out there that do the rock / symphonic thing ???
Do I expect too much from my set-up ???

listen to some clips here.....
http://www.lastrockers.com/music.html

Love and respect to all out there
Paul
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