PT6 "officialy" Announced..., at last Options

[Mr.T]

From the DUC (extract from the "AES daily"edition, page 30):

"Digidesign Rolls Out New Pro Tools Software
At Booth 1447 Digidesign is featuring a number of new products, including new Pro Tools software, 6.0 for Mac OS X, and TDM 5.3.3 for Windows XP.
Pro Tools 6.0 boasts an all-new look and new features on Mac OS X. Shipping the end of the year, the new software offers improved performance and support for dual processor Macintosh G4 computers. Pro Tools 6.0 has improved organization and MIDI support, increased mixing options, and much more control. In this new version, Pro Tools has received a MIDI makeover, fully supporting the Mac OS X CoreMIDI engine and including MIDI Time Stamping (MTS) for sample-accurate MIDI timing with software samplers and synths (TDM, RTAS, HTDM and DirectConnect), and sub-millisecond accurate MIDI timing with MIDI I/O and other supported MTS-capable interfaces. Pro Tools 6.0 also has intelligent tools for groove creation and modification, including the new Beat Detective 2.0 that supports extraction and generation of DigiGroove templates based on audio performances for timing and velocity of passage. DigiGroove templates are compatable with new Groove Injection templates.
Pro Tools TDM 5.3.3 for Windows XP includes many of the features previously released in Pro Tools 5.3.1 software for Macintosh computers. Features include integrated control of PRE, mulit-DSP 48 bit mixer, Increased SYNC I/O options, and more. Pro Tools 5.3.3 software for Pro Tools|HD offers Windows XP users improved workflow efficiency through trus simultaneous sharing of media assets."

TDM and HD owners might enjoy this, while PTLE owners might, once again, be left behind...

[Levon River]

I don't have access to more infos than you do... I've just watched the hour of your first post and then the hour of your second post and was just amazed to see the hour and the time it took you to write those two posts.
In other words I made an...addition...ever heard of that?...

So, by that "logic", if I don't post at all for a week, it took me a week to write my next post, right? Your deduction was dead wrong, that's all. The time between the two posts had nothing to do with how long it took me to write either, it had strictly to do with what ELSE I was doing at the time. But thanks for playing.

I also think it would be a great loss to the MacMusic community for you to step down as moderator. I hope we're straight on that.

What's up with that?...at least we were agreeing on one thing...

I told you: I have no personal beef with you at all. All I've been doing in our exchages is deflecting the flames you seem determined to throw at me. I think your knowledge and experience and contributions are of value to a lot of people, including me. I'd rather be discussing music on the Mac with you and benefitting from your knowledge of that, and having others benefit from it, than being in a flame war. It's that simple. So I urged you to take a little time and reconsider. I still urge you to.

WHAT I DON'T like is when someone like you comes along and say "I don't get why people keep working with PT!! Fools! "(this might not be your exact words but, get real, that's basically what you're saying).

No, Mr. T, that is not at all what I am saying, or have been saying, or have ever said. That's why exact words are so important, and not misinterpretations of them. My calling DigiDesign's product "ProFools" is nothing more sinister than a slice of irony, a rhetorical device, a bit of satire directed solely at the company. My sentiments and empathies are entirely on the side of the consumers, the users.

Better get that irony meter checked.

From something you said in an earlier message, I also believe you entirely misunderstood my one and only use of the word "stupid" in this thread, when I said: "I personally think ProTools Free is the stupidest move they [DigiDesign] ever made." My entire point was that it exposed conclusively to the world that they--DigiDesign--are entirely capable of making their software usable with the Mac native audio, and with other audio hardware and software--the way DP, Cubase, etc. are--but that they knowingly and willfully lock it into their hardware, forcing people to buy their hardware at a premium.

I'll take it a step further: DigiDesign never threw such crumbs as ProTools Free and the recent MBox and 001 packages to the little guys as long as they had a complete monopoly on high-end Mac-based recording packages that required their high-end hardware. It was only with the advent of faster, more powerful computers--and competing software that would work native and with much less expensive audio/MIIDI hardware on those faster and more powerful computers--that DigiDesign decided they would stoop to try and horn in on the exact market segment of small home and project and demo studios that they had completely turned their noses up at for years. I can hear the caps being twisted off of Evian bottles in the marketing meetings where they decided they needed to get a piece of this new emerging market, and might be able to leverage that market into their bigger packages with the right come-on, and away from more affordable systems that were now competing with them hard.

I see it as a cold-blooded marketing ploy to cozy up to a market segment they wouldn't have wiped their shoes on before.

So I stand on the side of the user, the consumer, especially the ones on a budget who are trying to get good, professional audio projects done, and can't invest the small fortune that a higher-end DigiDesign system would require, when they can get very similar, if not identical, results these days with a much smaller investment. As long as I can help inform others that there are viable and workable options out there--and poke a few well-earnd holes in the Great Sacred Inflated Floating Godhead of DigiDesign in the process--I'm going to do it.

So nowhere did I say, or even imply, that anyone who has, themselves, been able to invest in a ProTools system is either a fool or stupid. Obviously, the products can deliver, or they never could have commanded the high prices they have gotten for them over the years. But there are other, less expensive, and very competent options available now. You don't actually have a problem with letting others know that, do you?

Feel free to insult Digi as much as you wish; no matter what you say, this IS a free board over which manufacturers don't have any power (unlike the DUC).

I didn't suggest that the manufacturers had power over it. I believe you've set up an entire squad of straw men now to flame.

Now, insult me and my intelligence and I'll be in your face!!! Any time!

That's fair enough. And you keep rewriting me just so you can get in my face over something I never said, and I'll be in yours. Any time. Deal?