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> Day 952--still No Pro Sequencer For Os X, Deliver us, O ye audio/MIDI gods...
Levon River
posté mer. 14 août 2002, 05:04
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Even Noah only had to deal with 40 days and 40 nights of rain. Here we've been subjected to a 952-day and 952-night drought with NO, zip, none, nada, nary a single pro combined audio/MIDI program in sight.

Don't point to Reason 2.0: it's a wonderful program, but they admit that they don't even use *actual* MIDI, and I'd rather juggle kittens than use Reason's editors for writing and/or tweaking a part. And of course it doesn't do audio editing at all.

Don't point to Deck 3.5: no MIDI sequencing and editing.

No, it's a plague and a curse on Mac musicians, a starvation diet, over two years in solitary confinement. But there are promises...

Promises, promises...

DAY 952 and counting...
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ryosode
posté ven. 30 août 2002, 23:24
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I agree with Levon River. Live is not a Audio/MIDI sequencer and we all know (and if you don't, maybe you are on a wrong forum) that's not what we are looking for. Same goes for Reason and Deck. They are all great in their own rights.

Both Steinberg and MOTU said they'll release the production systems by the end of this year. Well, you know that when these companies aren't giving you specific dates, chance is shipments won't happen in next month or two. (Yeah, I heard the thing about "September release" too, but that was 6 months ago and nothing was heard afterwards.) As for Apple/Emagic, they haven't made any public statements as to when Logic will be available. Same goes for Digidesign.

For one thing, since Apple is pushing CoreAudio and that's what most developers are using, the old code must be changed dramatically. It's not making the pretty GUI that takes the most time. It's making sure the audio engine works fine that takes the longest. If you have ever looked at the source code for those audio stuff, you know how scary it is to rewrite the Audio I/O, right?

Secondly, Apple revised Audio HAL and MIDI Services in Jaguar. As the result, the API improved alot. However, some of the older API's were deprecated as well. While they have gone through extensive CoreAduio/MIDI Service sessions in the last WWDC 2002 (and you could pretty much meet engineers from every major companies discussed in these threads! They are working very hard.), it will take some time for the developers to catch up and rewrite the code that was written for 10.1.x. I am glad though that these developers are taking time to make sure the software works! In the mean time, I am content with my OS 9.

BTW, I noticed some ppl were spitting out jargon such as "CoreMIDI". I was not aware of an API called CoreMIDI. Pls correct me if I am wrong. Please read this page for general info on OS X Audio:
http://developer.apple.com/audio/coreaudio.html
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- Levon River   Day 952--still No Pro Sequencer For Os X   mer. 14 août 2002, 05:04
- - bixpender   actually logic and cubase are both coming out in s...   jeu. 15 août 2002, 04:53
- - BusError   This is wrong. CoreAudio was ready, and was workin...   jeu. 15 août 2002, 08:27
- - Levon River   Well, BusError, that's pretty interesting info...   jeu. 15 août 2002, 15:33
- - rickenbacker   I don't think companies showing products at tr...   ven. 16 août 2002, 10:57
- - BusError   I don't know really what happends. It's tr...   ven. 16 août 2002, 13:48
- - Yukulele   QUOTE (Levon River @ Aug 14 2002, 06:04)Here ...   sam. 17 août 2002, 09:51
- - Levon River   I'm afraid Live also isn't in the same cat...   sam. 17 août 2002, 16:06
- - prutulz   QUOTE (Levon River @ Aug 17 2002, 17:06)That...   ven. 30 août 2002, 13:27
- - filarion   Hey, no dissing Live, it´s a wonderful program. Ta...   ven. 30 août 2002, 15:54
- - Levon River   QUOTE (filarion @ Aug 30 2002, 14:54)Hey, no ...   ven. 30 août 2002, 21:34
- - filarion   I´m totally with you on this issue. My only guess ...   ven. 30 août 2002, 23:24
- - filarion   Sigh. Again, I never said that Live was, we were o...   sam. 31 août 2002, 08:06
- - rickenbacker   For what it's worth, I was talking to the sale...   sam. 31 août 2002, 12:19
- - DANO10   Hey guys. There is a professional Audio/MIDI seque...   sam. 31 août 2002, 14:54
- - bdeep   The fact that emagic haven't announced an exac...   sam. 31 août 2002, 19:17
- - filarion   Audio yeah, but does Deck have any MIDI capabiliti...   sam. 31 août 2002, 22:19
- - damann   QUOTE (filarion @ Aug 31 2002, 07:06)But, sin...   dim. 1 sept. 2002, 01:39
- - filarion   A real pity, especially since they´re developing a...   dim. 1 sept. 2002, 10:56
- - Levon River   My original plaint that started this thread has no...   lun. 2 sept. 2002, 01:12


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