Issues With M-audio Delta And G5 1.8 Dp?, Relates to PCI (-X) bus noise Options

[dougzilla]

Hi,

First post, appreciate any advice.

I've just purchased a 1.8 GHz dual processor G5 Power Mac, upgrading from an aging and slow 500MHz G4. I have used an M-audio Delta-44 4in/4out PCI interface for 2 years on that machine, no problems. I can't use it on the G5 because the old PCI card has 5V signalling while the new architecuture uses 3.3 V, regardless of whether the bus is PCI or PCI-X. M-Audio offers a swap-out for their latest Delta-44 card which it claims is PCI and PCI-X compatible for $50.

I called M-Audio today to order the new card and they told me there are issues (digital hash, crackles, etc.) using it in the 1.8 DP G5's and that they don't want to swap for my old card. They claim that they have been working directly with Apple for "months" and that the problem lies with them. They said to call Apple, which I did.

When I eventually got an Apple product specialist for the DP 1.8's on the phone, he says Apple knows nothing about this issue, but there were some issues in 1st gen 1.8 DP G5's (ones with 8 memory slots on the mother board). He knows of no such issues now. He says go back to M-Audio and work with them.

So this is a classic case of manufacturers pointing fingers at one another.

QUESTION: DOES ANYONE IN THE GROUP HAVE EXPERIENCE USING M-AUDIO PCI-X CARDS in G5 1.8 DP MACHINES? DO THEY WORK OR SHOULD I BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER INTERFACE? I NEED ONLY 4IN/4OUT LINE LEVEL BALANCED FROM MY ANALOG MIXER, GOOD AD/DA CONVERTER WITH 24/96 CAPABILITY AND LOW LATENCY. WILL BE USING LOGIC EXPRESS 7 SOFTWARE.

TIA,
Doug(zilla)

[efflux]

I am actually a PC user but on reading this stuff about these problems here, I thought I'd add a comment. I have had problems with an M-Audio Delta 44 and 66 on a PC P4. The problems are related to groundloops, lots of low level buzzes, hums, clicks etc getting into the audio because M-Audios cards have a totally unsatisfactory design as far as dealing with this problem. I have Protools on another system with exactly the same hardware, no problems. In my opinion M-Audios Delta cards are useless on a modern fast computer in a studio environment which will always have ground loops. I have voiced my opinions to M-Audio about this. All the advice they give is to find the problem component by unplugging devices and lifting grounds but it is THEIR gear that is no good. Computers are a source of all kinds of ground dirt. There is no way around this. The soundcard manufacturers must accommodate it in their interface design.