 Dual Processor Support, i have a question :) |
 ven. 27 sept. 2002, 17:00
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hello!
im using logic 5.2 on os9. currently only one processor is computing the plugins, the other one computes the gui afaik. will that change in the future, perhaps with osx/audio units, so that both processors are used for computing the plugins? thn for any hint!  rage -------------------- |
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dim. 29 sept. 2002, 19:15
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Newbie Groupe : Members Messages : 11 Inscrit : 13 août 02 Lieu : Hanover - DE Membre no 6,841 |
nobody?
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 dim. 29 sept. 2002, 20:03
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 Newbie Groupe : Members Messages : 15 Inscrit : 28 sept. 02 Lieu : St-Roch De L'Achigan - CA Membre no 8,044 |
Don't know how does OSX shares processors tasks but it does it. If logic runs natively on OSX, Multi-Processors will work
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 lun. 30 sept. 2002, 02:27
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Sorry but I saw your post 2 days ago and after moving it (you bad boy spank spank) I forgot to answer (too many bad boys)
In OS9, mutiproc support is define at the app level, so DP uses both procs on task-to-do basis. Logic is different as it affect one proc to midi and the other to audio, not the best way to do but at least they use both. In OSX, multiproc support is at the os level. That is the system decide, the app follow so that everything runs with the power it needs, which can use both procs. On the exact brewing, a developer maybe could give us a bit more light but for me it's enough. On the intricacies of audiounits etc. a thread is already here about, with a link to the docs from apple upon if I remember well. Anyway, first thing is to have a biproc mac
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lun. 30 sept. 2002, 08:17
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 Advanced Member  Groupe : Members Messages : 351 Inscrit : 12 août 02 Lieu : London - UK Membre no 6,795 |
On the audio path. there is very little interest of attempting to use both processors at once; since it's sequencial in nature - ie you need the output of plugin 1 as output of plugin 2.
Now one could imagine using 2 processors for 2 tracks, however, one must know that synchronising threads is not only hard to do, but also very expensive as far as the processor is concerned. especialy, achieving sample accuracy is next to impossible, even with "real time" threads. he more tracks you'd have, the harder it would get. So it migth be that an application like an audio one would use more CPU power to keep in sync than whats gained by using 2 CPUs. So, for the pure audio, thats the answer: KISS (Keep it Simple, Stupid ;-)) It is much easier for everyone to sequence multi tracks using one thread, so, why bother ?  However, there are many other things an application can do with 2 CPUs. Like the VST plugins could use a separate thread to run their snazy windows in etc. That very much everyone to itself at that point. -------------------- |
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mar. 1 oct. 2002, 00:13
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 Maniac Member Groupe : Members Messages : 899 Inscrit : 12 oct. 01 Lieu : Kirkland Membre no 2,002 |
 From the reports I've seen on logic user groups, Logic Platinum is NOT completely optimized for dual processors. Users report that the CPU meter show one processor working harder than the other. Sounds like one CPU is still handeling the GUI, and the other is handeling the rest of the processes. But I expect Logic will get the same treatment as Final Cut Pro. -------------------- G-Dub
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mar. 1 oct. 2002, 00:33
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Advanced Member Groupe : Members Messages : 351 Inscrit : 12 août 02 Lieu : London - UK Membre no 6,795 |
you didn't read, did you?
I explained why using 2 processors is silly for audio. Please re-read. That Logic doesnt use both is normal.
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 mar. 1 oct. 2002, 01:35
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Maniac Member Groupe : Members Messages : 899 Inscrit : 12 oct. 01 Lieu : Kirkland Membre no 2,002 |
I did read your response, but Final Cut Pro was in the same boat, now it's not. FCP is renders files nearly 3x faster than Adobe's After Effects. Because of the optimization, and I hope (fingers crossed) we will see a better cpu balance in the future. -------------------- G-Dub
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