I Need Some Fresh Idea...!, Triple backward jump from LP6.4 to LP7.2 Options

[emgcarra]

Hi everybody:
I really don´t know if there are any answer to this topic, because of his repetition or his nature...
I am tryng to survive the Up-Grade illness from LogicPro 6.4 to LogicPro 7.2, including Tiger 10.4.3
installation and change of interface....(from Digi 001 to a provisional M-Audio FW 410)...
And of course, there is where my troubles begin....After seven intents I could reach Tiger 10.4.3...OK
Then I started with Logic.....several more intents away and it was done....(no trouble-free...) But when try
to install the famous FW 410....I downloaded the proper driver (1.6) and proceeded...Then as told
in many forums and manual...Shut down, plug things in and then turn on the computer.....
But no, my beloved G4 2x800 couldn´t see the FW410, then I tryed into the other FW port.....error...!! G4 can´t see it....
Logic can´t see it either and so doesn´t see my MOTU Express 128 midi interface....
So, here I am, trying to figure out how to go ahead without selling the house in order to buy a not-so-new
G5 and/or look for a FW PCI card to replace what I thing are a couple of Dead FW Ports....
May be I´ll try to find a "day job" untill G6 came to the market...?
Any Ideas....? I will appreciate very much.........Thanks for reading...
Guillermo

[switte]

I would check those firewire ports with another device before replacing them. I have a firewire 410 and it was very fussy in the beginning but after working the kinks out everything seems fine.

Try reinstalling the firewire 410 drivers and make sure you have the right drivers for the version of os x you have.

Also, are you getting power to the 410 through the firewire, is the blue light on the front on/off/blinking
if its totally off then its not seeing the computer at all, if its blinking then its either not communicating with the drivers or it is in low power mode (in that case you just press the on button)...

Hope some of this might help

[abekita]

Try to run Disk Utility - Repaire Disk Permissions, in many cases it solvs a problem

[emgcarra]

Thanks you falks. I did the permissions trick and also the reinstalling drivers as you suggest.
But nothing happens. In the other hand, the blue light is indeed turned on but blinking, so there is
some AC going thru.....I just tryed to connect an ext FW HD and the results were similar...light but no
recognition, I mean: You can´t see their icon on the finder, on the display.
I have also ordered a PCI FW card to try to solve the lack of FW ports...Let´s see if that could help.
I have to thanks again for your time. Abekita / Switte...
I´ll keep trying everything and keeping you both informed.


P.S. What about the "blind" Motu Express 128, any ideas...??
Guillermo.-

[lepetitmartien]

First reset the motherboard, maybe the ports are "blocked":

- unplug everything save the mains
- touch the backplates of the PCI cards to remove static
- unplug mains
- open the computer and search for a tiny little button, it's sometimes near the lithium battery (G3) sometimes not (first G5), and I don't remember for G4.
- keep it press 20 seconds ONCE ONLY (pressing twice can fry the motherboard)
- while you're at it, unplug memory and cards and drives and replug them back in
- close and replug the whole stuff

Reset NVRAM/PRAM while you're at it, it's a good move to clear things further.

Hope this helps.

[emgcarra]

First reset the motherboard, maybe the ports are "blocked":

- unplug everything save the mains
- touch the backplates of the PCI cards to remove static
- unplug mains
- open the computer and search for a tiny little button, it's sometimes near the lithium battery (G3) sometimes not (first G5), and I don't remember for G4.
- keep it press 20 seconds ONCE ONLY (pressing twice can fry the motherboard)
- while you're at it, unplug memory and cards and drives and replug them back in
- close and replug the whole stuff

Reset NVRAM/PRAM while you're at it, it's a good move to clear things further.

Hope this helps.

.....WOW !!! It looks frightening, but I will follow your lead and keep you up dated.
Thanks a lot

Ce message a été modifié par lepetitmartien - mer. 28 juin 2006, 03:23.

[gdoubleyou]

First check under the bule a-ple menu/ About this mac/more info.

The system profiler has information about every piece of hardware and software on your machine.

If the device is not detected by the profiler chances are you have a hardware problem.

Check out the hardware test disk that came with your machine, it will check the Macs hardware and report back it's findings, it will let you know if you have problems with your Mac.

[lepetitmartien]

.....WOW !!! It looks frightening, but I will follow your lead and keep you up dated.

It looks like hairy geeky, but it's not that difficult, just do it calmly.

On the nvram reset, the procedure thru Open Firmware is given in my G5 thread. it's in fact dead simple but as you start to see the hairy side of things we don't have the habit to on macs, it looks difficult but is not definitely.

Thanks a lot

btw, I know I'm a geek

[emgcarra]

Thanks to all you guys...!

- I guess I have a hardware problem, because of the blind FW ports...!?
- I am also waiting for a free afternoon in order to do the freaky reset indications...
I guess that I don´t have much to loose, at this time....
- Any news about the G6 or whatever is the name....??

This forum and site are the best all around....They are for normal people.... almost always...

Thanks again,

Guillermo.- :rolleyes

[lepetitmartien]

- I guess I have a hardware problem, because of the blind FW ports...!?
- I am also waiting for a free afternoon in order to do the freaky reset indications...
I guess that I don´t have much to loose, at this time....

The only way to know is to try, BTW, if you're doing this calmly there's no problem whatsoever to fear. also it's a simple fix if it's that only!

- Any news about the G6 or whatever is the name....??

Comin' this summer till october, only Steve knows. The first CPU candidates are available since monday but even better ones are coming from intel.

If you look at the SETI@Home top computers page, all the best are Quads save the top one for a little time now, which is a multiple cores computer (intel xeon woodcrest CPU). This last computer uses one of the candidate chips for our desktops.

This forum and site are the best all around....They are for normal people.... almost always...

Thanks again,

Our pleasure (blushing for everyone here)

[emgcarra]

Well, well, well....Now I am in big troubles....!! I have to admit that there was help when I asked for it...But now I can´t even tell you all if "The Thing" is working because it is not...
After the freaky tricks about resetting those fried FW ports...and installing my new FW/USB ADS Dual Link
PCI Card....Guess what... Nothing happened....and I mean nothing (almost nothing...) Now, when I start up
the cpu, a grey apple and a time machine cycling below, is all I can see..... I guess I´ve finally arrived to the very end of my short knoledge about computers.... So bad it is, that I had to call a technicist and make him to come home tomorrow afternoon, to try to fix the "device"....
I regret the moment I decided to buy the M-Audio because I guess it is the begining of "all my sorrows....
Thanks again for your time, patience and advice....
Tomorrow we will see...... I don´t think God could be handy, but I will light him a candle, just in case...

I will keep you informed.

[lepetitmartien]

You can try another motherboard and NVRAM reset.
Have you moved around the card to another slot?

But it looks a lot now to what happened to my G5…

Now there are times it's better to leave the technician have a look. I hope it's something "stupid" and not something $$$

[Mac Daddy]

emgcarra, I feel you. Hurts. Hope you are up and running better, faster and creating great music very soon. If you can grab a cheap flight to Hamburg, Amptown can fix it. There is a Technician named: Arvid. He should be earning a much as a Doctor with his knowledge, instead he's a dutiful whizz kid drone... and loving it!

No, I don't work for them, just a very satisfied customer... Sure, I've had a few problems, we all do at one time or another, usually the problems were my fault because of my Noobness. "You mean I only had to 'Click' That?" Quick fixes each time... 2-3 Hours... Complete.

Most time is spent loading and re-registering Software. I swear I don't work for em'. They pass the test best. Plus you can sit with the "Technician" or go shopping in their massive store, they have everythang! If your Computer is going to be gone for more than several days and will cost several hundred dollars, might as well come to Hamburg for a day? Airport, Amptown, Airport, Home, Power-Up and Rock.

[emgcarra]

Ok, this is the status report:

1. I did all the resetting thing
2. Install the PCI Card w/ports
3. Then the G4 seem to be dead, or agonizing...
4. Disk Warrior tell us (tech-friend and I) HD is in bad shape..
5. Permissions trick...nothing
6. Format Hd appears to be the solution...
7. HD can´t be formated...oops !
8. Change HD for a new one...
9. Can´t install Logic Pro or FW410 Drivers or almost anything...you know "try installing later..."
10. It may be the Super Drive....!?
11. Let´s do it from another computer...OK
12. Same problem....can read the DVD of Logic Content, but the Cd is finally istalled..
13. Let´s check the DVD....it seems to be all right....
14. Ordered a new Pioneer DV111 to change the old one...!
15. Waiting for the mail.....and for the G6...
16. No music-making....No peace of mind...

Good night.-