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jeu. 28 nov. 2002, 12:45
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Wonx, I have a lot of sympathy. If I was more cynical, I'd be thinking that Emagic are dragging their feet on ReWire for Logic 5 simply because they don't want to support someone else's apps. I've got Logic 5 Platinum, I've got Reason 2.0: why can't I use them together? According to Propellerheads tech support, Emagic have all the necessary tools to implement ReWire, they just haven't done it yet. Which seems a strange atitude from the company that is insisting that audio units are really easy to convert to for VST programmers, so everyone should get on board. Hello? If its' all about the end users, can we have ReWire, then? Two updates on OS X (up to 5.5.0 now) and still no ReWire support. I wonder if Emagic are planning a drum machine for Logic? By the way, did you know Live 2.0 is coming in December, which apparently makes it much more like a multitrack recording environment? OK, it's not Logic, but at least it ReWires with Reason. I've got a feeling I'll be using that setup a lot more in the future until Emagic sorts ReWire out.
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ven. 29 nov. 2002, 09:08
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That's actually a good idea from Synthetic there - importing single tracks from Reason. It's not as tidy as ReWire, but it looks like a good solution until Emagic sorts it out. Live 2.0 looks like it'll be a major upgrade, making the program more of a multitrack recorder like Logic, Cubase etc. I've got 1.5 and I like it, it's a good program to have around, so I'm looking forward to 2.0. But Logic is still going to be the better multitrack sequencer. Better FX and more of them, more control/editing features, just a more complete package, I think. If I could only have one, I'd stick with Logic. I'm lucky enough to have all three (Logic, Live, Reason), so I can use each one as and when I need to. It's horses for courses, really - they all have their strengths and weaknesses. Hmm, if I sit on this fence any longer, I'm going to have a permanent crease. I'm off.
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ven. 29 nov. 2002, 18:37
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The NN-XT in Reason, alone, blows several hardware samplers into twinkling bit-dust. Its ability to set root note by pitch, and to auto-map zones, are both major time-savers. It also provides such advanced features as cross-fading samples by velocity, random samples, plus lots of filter, modulation, and envelope control features. Not to mention all the other great modules in Reason. Unfortunately Reason's MIDI sequencer/editor leaves much to be desired, and it can't record and playback audio, which requires its interaction with dedicated MIDI sequencer/DAW software packages for a full arranging and recording solution. So Propellarheads showed their actual dedication--not just lip service--to the needs and desires of users, and went the extra mile and created a way for other such programs to hook into and control Reason, all to be set up and controlled by the user, with the other hardware and software that the USER chooses. So that's *their* approach and value. If other makers of music products shared their philosophy and commitment to the music-maker, making music would be a solid pleasure. Then, for some reason, we have the ProTools and the Logics of the world. Maybe to provide expensive-and-elaborate or expensive-and-dinky dongles. Maybe to impress the impressionable. They've got to be there for something. It can't just be gougeware, snob appeal and elitism. But we find Logic willfully not supporting ReWire, and we try to find logic in it, and fail. (Isn't it amazing how the words "reason" and "logic" plague attempts at understanding?) But the fact remains that many companies, like Propellarheads, have proven conclusively that good music can be made without any of that proprietary and elitist baggage. I think it a tragedy that there are musicians who can be seduced into the "bigger better toys" game, and actually wave their dinky dongles in public instead of soberly pursuing the enrichment of the culture through making more and better music. The only question becomes who and what do you want to support with your hard-scratched scratch.
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ven. 29 nov. 2002, 19:51
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QUOTE (wonx @ Nov 29 2002, 18:32) Just left me wanting a quality sequencer that shared Propellorhead's philosophy. That's why I'm still on my Ghandiesque musical sit-down strike in OS X. The only hopes out there on the "RSN" horizon for us adrift in this raft are MOTU's Digital Performer and the being-reincarnated Metro. Although MOTU can be accused of being slow about it, their track record is that they they always came around to the "greater community" frame of mind sooner or later: they ultimately took the initiative to provide OMS emulation to end the stalemate between FreeMIDI and OMS. With wrappers (like VST Wrapper and Spark's FX Machine for MOTU), you could also use most VST effects and some VST Instruments in DP (although to MOTU's discredit, only third-party ware made it possible). Who knows what they are cooking up for their OS X recipe. We can only hope that they haven't succumbed to the marketing madness that appears to dominate the field right now. Metro being back in the hands of its creator now is a very interesting development. The original company that created Metro and Deck, OSC, built that on the exact philosophy of providing powerful and accessible software, reasonably priced. I have my fingers crossed that they will have the good sense to reinstate and continue that tradition now that Metro has audio capabilities, and promised support for both VST 2.0 and Audio Units (at least as I follow this murcurial pool of sketchy info). Here's the latest url for promised features: http://sagantech.biz/metro/products.shtmlLight a candle and hope these two stay the course. If they are smart, and really make their product as flexible and user-friendly and non=proprietary as possible, including as much inter-app connectivity as possible, I believe either of them could quickly rise to the top of the heap. It will be a very interesting horse-race to watch--one where everybody could come out winners.
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