moi ce que j'en dis
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Bientôt la faillite, mais pour qui ? Steve ou Bill ?
Bah pourquoi pas??...
Le seul truc qui couillait sur les PC c'était quand meme bien Windaube non?
Et pis Crosoft fait pas du hard mais bel et bien du soft..
Dans l'affaire c'est bien Gates qui doit flipper... pis si ça peut faire baisser le prix des (vrai)Macs... je vote pour...
z'imaginez ??? OSX avec des bi pro a 4Ghz pour 1500brouzouf???
yabon.
Ouaip, tout comme iTunes, OS X sur PC n'est qu'un trojan horse de plus : "Vous avez aimé le software, vous aimerez le hardware". Apple jouera sur le halo bobo de l'iPod et de l'iMac pour que le mec qui fait tourner son OS X sur sa boîte beige se sente benêt, et craque in fine pour un bô MacTel en alu brossé.
MMhh... là tu rouvres la porte à problèmes, réglages BIOS, IRQ, DMA et autres joyeusetés...
L'avantage d'un hardware verrouillé et validé par le fabricant assure quand même un minimum de sécurité, ne serait-ce qu'au niveau du support. Je crois que Digidesign déjà est pas mal à cheval sur le type de disque durs employés, alors le reste des composants de la bécane...
Si tu t'attends à avoir du support avec une machine faite de bric et de broc, même d'excellente qualité, tu replonges dans le merdier Windaube et ses 36000 drivers censés supporter quelques milliers de fabricants de composants tiers... bonjour le cauchemar.
Et puis tu parles d'un panard, allez respirer les dessous d'aisselles rue Montgallet.... non merci.
pour ma part, j'ai pas vraiment envie de jouer les bricolo du Bios, j'achète je branche et ça marche, pas de soucis de configuration,...(des fois j'me dis c'est un ordinateur pour les nuls....), y'a un suivi, une qualité de fabrication, et ça se paie, du moins je suis prêt a y mettre le prix.
Mac OS pour tout le monde, ça me dis rien non plus, je me dis que les gens devraient s'intéresser ou ils dépensent leur argent et ce qu'ils veulent faire avec, un minimum, comme pour la musique, étalée dans les rayons des supermarchés... d'ailleur les grandes enseignes en profiteraient pour mettre en tête de gondole le dernier Norton Symantec édition MacOS, l'indispensable
et n'oublies pas rachètes ta license tous les ans...
Cet OS sur PC, c'est comme ce MacMini, pour donner envie d'essayer et si ça te plait,...
La bonne chose, c'est la fin des débat Mac VS pc dans les forums, ouf...
Ne vous essouflez pas en suputations les gars: moi j'ai la veritable raison du pourquoi du comment (je lis dans les pensées de Steve).
Il sait très bien que son OS x pour MacIntel ne tiens pas une seconde devant des crackeurs. Il fera semblant de se fâcher mais en fait il VEUT que l'os soit cracké et utilisé sur PC, je l'avais déjà dit quand il a sorti la nouvelle du MacIntel.
En fait, à part le prix, la raison qui empêche les gens de switcher c'est la peur de devoir apprendre un nouvel OS. Alors si son OS X craqué tourne sur les PC tout le peuple des PC pourra se fair la main sur OS X à l'oeuil, surtout les jeunes (qui adorent les softs crackés). Le jour ou ils devront choisir une nouvelle machine rien ne les empêchera plus de prendre un MAc, si il a qq chose en plus; et il l'aura (en principe), en vertu de l'intégrationd machine/os que Apple sera le seul à pouvoir offrire, en vertu de l'effet de halo du iPod, etc.
Et ne me faites pas revenir là dessu ou je vous balance une autre chronique du futur.
J'suis d'accord avec M.Antoanto........Alors, pour qui la faillite...? Eh ben, moralité, les loups, y se mangent pas entre eux.....!
Apple and piracy? A match made in heaven?
Sun, Jun 19 2005, 21:18:24
By John Berger
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Ethics aside, piracy is among other things a type of free advertisement. Could piracy be exactly what Apple needs to make its upcoming Intel-based operating system a bigger hit than they expect?
Chris Seibold at Apple Matters recently published an article about how piracy is the path that Apple needs to follow. That certainly is an interesting idea, and one needs only to look at history to realize that piracy might actually be what could give Apple the bounce that it needs.
Think for a bit about Microsoft's dominance, and how it got there. Do you actually think that the sale of Microsoft's products are the reason why Microsoft is a monopoly? If you answered yes to yourself, you need to think again. More importantly, you need to educate yourself on the history of the personal computer.
The story of Microsoft's dominance begins with Windows 3.1. Here was an operating system that ran on any PC. The whole operating system came on seven floppy diskettes and there was absolutely no copy protection. Finally, the 286 and 386 PCs of the world could have a graphical operating system to get them away from the command line. (The command line was nothing to fear anyway, but what to marketing types care about truth in advertising?) If you knew someone who had the Windows 3.1 floppy diskettes, all that you needed to do was run down to the local computer or office supply store, buy a box of diskettes, use the diskcopy command, and you had Windows 3.1 for yourself. Within a few years, every PC owner moved away from the command line to the pretty icons, the charming bell sounds on startup, and of course Solitaire. This rampant piracy allowed millions upon millions of people to become familiar with an environment that they would have otherwise not purchased.
Assume then that PCs were offered with a choice of operating systems. What operating system do you think that the majority of people would have selected? Some operating system that was unknown to the general populous, like OS/2, GEOS, or CP/M? Or would they select something that they already knew well because they had been using a pirated version for months or years? You know the answer. And since the operating system came with the PC, Microsoft got a fee for that PC sale. So, whereas MS didn't profit from the initial piracy, they still made a sale later on and further addicted the user to Windows. Now that the user paid for Windows, they might as well continue to use it.
Move ahead several years later. U.S. printing franchise Kinko's offered a 30-day, full-usage CD for MS Office (I forget the specific version) for something like $5. Shortly thereafter a crack was released that broke the 30-day protection. The change was a simple modification to a DLL file and a huge number of these discs were sold as a result. If there was a lot of concern for the protection of the demo software, Microsoft would (or should) have made it more difficult than a DLL file for protection. I also heard nothing afterwards about prosecuting the one who released the crack. Oh, sure, Microsoft feigned disgust for the release of that crack, but only the most naïve actually believed that Microsoft was truly going to pursue this individual.
So, for a few dollars per disc and a downloaded crack, Microsoft snared hundreds of thousands (possibly millions) of people into Microsoft Office. I'd just about guarantee that the vast majority of those people are still using a version of MS Office. Whether those versions are pirated or not is another matter, but I'll bet that many of them are now valid, purchased licenses.
Once again, piracy made Microsoft more money and created more customer dependency in the long run.
I say piracy semi-seriously because I still firmly believe that the crack for the Kinko's version of MS Office several years ago was planned. Think about it. If a monopoly officially reduces the price of a product so low that there is no way that competitors could compete with it, that monopoly would have the government on their case for anti-trust violations in a New York minute. However, if a product is released as a demo and just so happens to be cracked, that monopoly now has an alibi.
Well, we most certainly designed the promotion so that people would like the product and go out and purchase the real thing. We did not expect it to be cracked. It is not our fault at all that millions of people paid $5 and downloaded a crack rather than purchase our competitors' $300 software packages. We are the real victims here due to piracy!
Microsoft got millions of people hooked on MS Office because of that scheme yet got off the hook themselves by disguising the whole affair as someone else's illegal activity due to releasing the crack to disable the 30-day limitation. That's just my opinion, of course, but it is consistent with the type of tactics that Microsoft has used over the years to increase their market share.
Let us now go across the Pond. A few years ago in Spain, a number of PC World magazines came with what was supposed to be a 30-day demo of Windows 2000 Professional. It turned out that the disc that was provided was actually the full thing, not a demo version. So, by buying PC World people also acquired a multi-hundred-dollar operating system. PC World said it was an error, of course, but who provided the master image or the discs for PC World to distribute? I doubt that PC World made those discs themselves. They likely got them from the Spanish or European Microsoft headquarters. So, it was a mistake? I find that to be very unlikely.
Microsoft once allowed and encouraged companies to let their employees take the MS Office distribution media and install Office on their PC's at home. The arguments were that the employee only used one copy at a time and the corporation benefited from employees working at home. Of course, the truth is probably more that the home installations of Office were used more for personal reasons. Just before Office 97 came out, Microsoft stopped this practice. So, now the company's employees used Office 95 at home and were told that they could not bring Office 97 home. How many of those employees do you think then went out to buy legitimate upgrades to Office 97 for home use? I would guess that a significant number did.
I really would like to know how much of Microsoft's current dominance is due to past piracy. I'm convinced that Microsoft would not be anywhere close to where it is now if there was no such thing as software piracy.
But let's focus on the man in the mirror. How many of us have pirated a number of games that we otherwise would not have bought, but the games were so impressive that we purchased what was downloaded and/or purchased any of its sequels or expansion packs? I would think many of us.
Piracy can under certain circumstances make a product more popular, and Microsoft's dominance is certainly what should be offered as proof of that. I would be willing to bet that Apple would be a big winner by following the same path. Let the curious get the operating system for free or through piracy, then reel them in when they realize that it's actually a good operating system.
Think about it. Apple has announced that they're moving to the Intel platform in less than two years, so they are effectively releasing their operating system for Intel. (Looks like they're locking out AMD unfortunately. ) Apple has actually been creating their operating systems internally for Intel for the past five years in what might seem to be preparation for their recent announcement. Now that the Apple OS is based on UNIX, that makes porting to the Intel platform that much easier.
So, Apple releases their OS for Intel but locks out AMD. Millions of people pirate it and install it on their own systems. Someone cracks the anti-AMD protection and releases a version that will run on AMD as well as Intel. Millions of people now become familiar with OS X for x86 and like what they see. Apple convinces major PC vendors to offer OS X for x86 as an option for new systems. Demand makes the PC vendors realize that there is a market for it and make the choice available for customers. Millions of people purchase their next system with OS X because they can always install their pirated Windows XP if they don't like it. (It's still a PC, after all.) That means licensing fees for Apple, higher demand for Apple software, higher demand for Apple support, and higher demand for Apple products.
(As of this writing, Dell has said that they are interested in selling Apple PCs; however, Dell has been completely deceitful when it comes to such non-Windows/non-Intel statements in the past. Every year they talk about how they might start to sell systems with AMD processors. Coincidentally, Dell's talk of using AMD always seems to come up just before they enter contract talks with Intel, and talk about using AMD seems to disappear immediately afterwards.)
I know a number of people that I work with (myself included) who would love to work with OS X but are not willing to purchase an additional piece of hardware that we might not be interested in afterwards. But we'd be glad to try it out on one of our Athlon XP/64 systems.
Is all of this hypothetical? Perhaps. But look at history. That's exactly what happened to Microsoft.
Even some game companies have benefitted immensely from piracy. Look at the original Wolfenstien 3D. The version that was made available for download was for chapter 1. The full game was available by getting the .WAD files from someone who had them. The game was without question the most popular game of the time and became the father of the modern 3D shooter.
More than that, it was the best advertisement that id Software could have possibly wanted. When Doom was released under the same marketing tactic, millions of people paid for the full game just because of their experience with their pirated Wolf 3D. And when Doom II came out, millions of people purchased it because of their experience with the purchased or pirated Doom. Following that pattern, how many of you went out and purchased Doom III solely on your past experience with Doom and Doom II (the immense hype not withstanding)?
Now, I'm certainly not trying to downplay piracy, although I still and will always vehemently stand against the dollar figures that are associated with piracy. They're always estimates. There is absolutely no proof whatsoever behind the dollar values that are associated with piracy. But piracy certainly is an issue. Too many good companies have had to close shop because of piracy.
But in this case I think that Apple needs to take a close look at how piracy or a piracy-like distribution model might actually make them far more popular than they currently are once they migrate to the Intel platform. A crack (followed by a press release stating outrage) that lets OS X run on AMD perhaps?
Pas bête non?
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Si on en croit l'injonction très menaçante qu'à reçu http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=forums&url=http://www.macbidouille.com/news/2005-08-17/#11401 de retirer du site les vidéos montrant Mac OS X booter sur un PC, la théorie du piratage désiré par Apple ne tient pas. Steve n'est peut être plus autant visionnaire ?
En tous cas on a peut-être du souci à se faire quant à l'avenir de notre marque préférée !!!
Jobs n'a certainement pas envie que son os soit "transférable" sur un PC, sauf à devenir le concurrent direct de Bill, mais y tient-il vraiment ?
Oui, le plus taré dans l'histoire étant que les deux théories se tiennent.
Il se peut qu'Apple bénéficie de l'exposition de son OS sur la plateforme PC. Depuis le temps qu'on les bassine avec le Mac, c'est sûr que ça démange les PC users de voir à quoi ressemble le bidule. Mais... qu'entend-on par PC users ?
La sempiternelle bande de nerds, encore plus addict aux forums que nous, qui utilise comme signature la liste in extenso de leur matos, ventilo du disque dur inclus ? Ces espèces de Dédés du tuning sont-ils réellement représentatifs du marché informatique mondial ? Même si l'on restreint le champ de réflexion aux particuliers, combien réellement sont-ils à connaître l'utilisation des Torrents, et à prendre le risque d'installer le machin sur leur bécane (faut déjà avoir un deuxième disque dur à dispo) ?
Je suppose que la plupart d'entre nous sont considérés par leurs proches comme la personne qui s'y connaît en informatique et qui peut dépanner quand il y a un souci ; c'est bien de cela dont il s'agit : la plupart des utilisateurs se servent de 10% des fonctionnalités des logiciels, ignorent la plupart du temps qu'il existe des menus contextuels et ne savent pas optimiser leur workflow par la simple difficulté qu'ils éprouvent à se servir d'un ordinateur.
Donc à l'arrivée, quel est le manque réel à gagner pour Apple ? Le même sur lequel pleurnichent les studios hollywoodiens, en réclamant la fermeture de BitTorrent alors que les entrées en salle sont au beau fixe ?
Mais il est sûr qu'un studio qui perd une entrée ou une location la perd pour de bon. Or la donne est différente pour Apple. Même si l'OS X cracké commence à pulluler d'ici de là, l'essentiel est que la pomme s'affiche sur l'écran au démarrage.
A partir de là, si Jobs et l'équipe marketing est assez prudente pour tenir le cap des Apple Stores et maintenir la pression du branding, il ne reste plus à Apple qu'à continuer de proposer des machines dans la même veine que le TiVo, un iPod vidéo, et des PowerMac bêtes de courses. Leur mission à long terme étant de devenir la référence du multimédia à un bouton, fonctionnalités limitées mais plug and play immédiat. Ce que même les grosses têtes linuxiennes demandent à leur baladeurs ou laptops quand ils sortent du bureau : ne plus avoir à se prendre le chou.
En fait, tout ce que Microsoft voudrait arriver à imposer avec son Media Center, mais qui ne décolle pas du fait d'une l'image boursouflée et d'une interface graphique "clunky".
Même en prenant le parti que tout cela n'enchante pas Apple, si manque à gagner il y a, il risque d'être en grande partie résorbé par la puissance de ce marketing viral, volontaire ou pas.
Perso, je pense que Steve ne s'arrête pas à la conquête de l'OS (elle était facile celle-là ).
Il a su faire décoller la pomme grace à l'ipod et les macs à petits prix. Son créneau est désormais "l'informatique simple et conviviale en famille". Le créneau pro "multimedia" est déjà acquis car la plupart ne jurent que par Apple (encore plus depuis OSX)... Son interêt est ailleurs... mais où? de plus, par rapport à intel, je pense qu'il n'avait pas trop le choix... Les complications, mésententes et négociations de longue haleine entre les fournisseurs de la pomme n'étaient pas les bienvenues... risquant de lester l'avion apple en plein décollage.
Attendons les évenements qui vont suivre pour mieux comprendre sa stratégie....
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